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AH Member Writings : Ron Last Updated: Jan 14, 2020 - 12:07:47 PM


KNOWING and Knowledge: Perception, awareness and consciousness
By Ron Chapman, Osho & Others
Sep 18, 2010 - 5:41:10 PM

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KNOWING and Knowledge: Perception, Awareness and Consciousnes

Ron: One of the difficulties I experience in trying to come to grips with life, the universe and everything is that I think using words; and I hafta use words to express myself. I imagine that once we reach the blessed condition of communicating energetically (telepathically?) the possibility of confusion and misunderstanding will dissipate and even disappear. Bring it on!

An example of that difficulty, as experienced by me in discussing perception, awareness and consciousness is that I use the word "perception” to mean physical perception using our five physical senses. That’s OK but I also tend to use the word “perception” in terms of being perceptive which has a whole different connotation which seems to sit more with the idea of conscious awareness.

Perception is sometimes talked about as if it constitutes our paradigmatic view of ourselves and our world, manifested not only as a result of our experiences in this incarnation but all of them. That view implies that sense “perception” of physical phenomena – energetic signals received via our senses – is not only interpreted physically but psychically and spiritually. That is no doubt true but it seems to me that the activity involved slides across from physical perception into the interpretation process involved in awareness and even conscious awareness.

When discussing our situation in terms of operating in our 3/4D environment I sometimes de-emphasise the truth that getting to the stage of knowing is really the crux of the matter. Arguably knowing IS conscious awareness and knowing really comes from within. But in 3D, knowing is often assumed to equate with our efforts to obtain knowledge which we tend to confuse with understanding words rather than their sense. As I understand it, acquiring knowledge is not, knowing.

Arguably the root cause of all suffering is ignorance, but knowledge is not the remedy - awakening is the remedy. The getting of wisdom is only achieved through awakening, ie becoming consciously aware of the spirit within. The spirit of Source stamps its image in each soul. Thus knowledge – the sense of truly KNOWING – is latent within all ensouled humans.

Keely is reported to have said, rightly in my view, that: "Every [ensouled?] man contains, developed or embryonic, all conditions of the Infinite.”
As I see it, the trick is to begin to awaken to that embryonic innate knowledge. Here is an interesting discussion on knowing found at http://pondscienceinstitute.on-rev.c...p?page=knowing

Knowing

Sometimes called sixth sense. Inner promptings. Gut feeling. Hunch. Seeing or knowing with the Mind as opposed to seeing with the five physical senses. Knowing without limitations or constraints of Time and Space.

Russell "Conscious awareness is KNOWING. Unawareness means that one does not yet know. Knowledge is within him which he can know when he desires to know." The Secret of Light (external link)

"Man becomes a higher being with greater power as he acquires knowledge. In knowledge alone lies power. Only through knowledge can man become co-creator with God.

Knowledge can be obtained by man only through awareness of the Spirit within him. Lack of that awareness is the tragedy of today's civilization." The Secret of Light (external link)

Cayce "All knowledge - then, now, or in the future, is latent within self - would man but begin to understand. The stamp, the image of the Creator is a part of the heritage of each soul." Cayce (2533-4)

Keely "Every man contains, developed or embryonic, all conditions of the Infinite; therefore no height is too great to reach. Impossibility is a meaningless word to the man who apprehends the fathomless contents of his own nature." Keely, The Amplitude of Force.

Osho on Knowing

The state of ignorance is the cause of all delusions, of all unreality's, of all appearances, but to know more is not the state of knowledge. Ignorance is the cause but not the remedy - knowledge in the sense of knowledge-ability. You can know more and more and more, but you remain the same. Knowledge becomes an addiction..... And the root cause of ignorance can be dissolved only when you are more, when your being is stronger, when your being is more powerful, when your being has awakened. The root cause of all suffering is ignorance, but knowledge is not the remedy - awakening is the remedy.

It is as if you have been living in a dark cell. You have heard about light but you have not seen it. And how can you hear about light? It can only be seen. Ears are not the medium to know light; eyes are. And you have heard about light. And hearing again and again about light you have started to feel that you know light; but to know about is not to know. You have heard. How can you hear light? It will be as if someone says that he has seen music. It will be absurd.

I will tell you one anecdote I have always loved. It is about Siddha Naropa, the disciple of Tilopa. It happened before Naropa found his master, Tilopa. It happened before he himself became enlightened. And it is a must for every seeker; it has to happen to everybody. So whether it happened to Naropa or not is not the point - it is a must on the journey. Unless it happens, enlightenment is not possible.

''Naropa was a great scholar, a great pundit. There were stories that he was a great vice-chancellor of a great university - ten thousand disciples of his own. One day he was sitting surrounded by his disciples. All around him were scattered thousands of scriptures - ancient, very ancient, rare. Suddenly he fell asleep, must have been tired, and he had a vision. I call it a vision not a dream because it is no ordinary dream. It is so significant, to call it a dream won't be just; it was a vision.

He saw a very, very old, ugly, horrible woman - a hag. Her ugliness was so much that he started trembling in his sleep. It was so nauseating he wanted to escape - but where to escape, where to go? He was caught, as if hypnotized by the old hag. Her body was nauseating, but her eyes were like magnets..

She asked, Naropa, what are you doing?

And he said, I am studying.

What are you studying?asked the old woman.

He said Philosophy, religion, epistemology, language, grammer, logic.

The old woman asked again, Do you understand them?

Naropa said, Of....Yes, I understand them.

The woman asked again, Do you understand the word or the sense?

This was asked for the first time. Thousands of questions had been asked to Naropa in his life. He was a great teacher - thousands of students always asking, inquiring - but nobody had asked this; whether you understand the word, or the sense. And the woman's eyes were so penetrating that it was impossible to lie - she will find out. Before her eyes Naropa felt completely naked, nude, transparent. Those eyes were going to very depth of his being and it was impossible to lie. To anybody else he would have said. Of course, I understand the sense. but to this woman, but to this woman this horrible looking woman, he couldn't speak the lie; he had to say the truth.

He said Yes, I understand the words.

The woman was very happy. She started dancing and laughing. Thinking that the woman has become so happy.... And because of her happiness her ugliness was transformed, she was no longer so ugly, a subtle beauty started coming out of her being. Thinking I have made her so happy. Why not make her a little more happy? He said, And yes, I understand the sense also.

The woman stopped laughing. She stopped dancing. She started crying and weeping, and all her ugliness was back - a thousand fold more.

Naropa said, Why? why are you weeping and crying? And why were you laughing and dancing before?

The woman said, I was dancing and laughing and was happy because a great scholar like you didn't lie. But now I am crying and weeping because you have lied to me. I know - and you know that you don't know the sense.

The vision disappeared and Naropa was transformed. He escaped from the university. He never again touched a scripture in his life. He became completely ignorant; he understood that just by understanding the word, whom are you befooling; and just by understanding the word you have become an ugly old hag.

Knowledge is ugly. And if you go near scholars you will find them stinking - of knowledge - dead.

A man of wisdom, a man of understanding, has a freshness about him, a fragrant life - totally different from a pundit from a man of knowledge. One who understands the sense becomes beautiful; one who only understands the word becomes ugly. And the woman was nobody outside: it was just a projection of the inner part. It was Naropa's own being, through knowledge became ugly. Just this much understanding that I don't understand the sense, and the ugliness was going to be transformed immediately into a beautiful phenomenon. '' Osho.

Food for thought cobbers.
Ron
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