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Political Information Last Updated: Jan 14, 2020 - 12:07:47 PM

The Christian Idea of the State
By Ted Malloch with comments by Ron
Jun 6, 2019 - 4:57:16 AM

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Guest post by Ted Malloch author of Davos, Aspen and Yale

Last week President Trump welcomed Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary in the White House.

Orban is the present leader of the Hungarian national conservative, Fidesz Party.
This word means "civitas" or civic alliance in Hungarian, and signals what Orban and his ilk stand for.

Handshakes apart, it was a particularly warm meeting of minds and souls.

Orban is "probably like me," Trump announced in a joint appearance at the Oval Office with the visiting dignitary. "A little bit controversial, but that's OK ... you've done a good job, and you've kept your country safe," Trump sighed, while suggesting that Orban, a controversial leader - "has done a tremendous job" and is "respected all over Europe."

It seemed as if Trump had finally met his real soul mate.

In fact, they are remarkably alike.

The two leaders share not only strong conservative and nationalist patriotic zeal, they express a similar fondness for what could be called, the Christian idea of the state.

What is that political philosophy?

Biblically, the state is an institution ordained by God, embracing both government and citizens, organized for the administration of justice and based on the monopoly of coercive power over a particular territory.

The structure of the state is obtained by understanding the normative, political manner in which the state functions in the basic ontological aspects of reality.

This ‘principled realism' has its foundation in the Old Testament and the moral foundation for legitimate government, the ten precepts or commandments, given at Sinai.

[Ron: IF the state as an institution is based on ‘principled realism' as founded in the Old Testament' and the ten commandments stated therein, it is a Talmudic construction since the Old Testament IS the Torah which is a barbaric, ethno-centric  political ideology that is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Jesus the Christ who said that we must learn to unonditionally love our neighbour (everyone and everything) AS ourselves (ie we must learn to accept and love ourselves) FOR the love of God (the Creator of all and everything).

That attitude to individual morality  and community governance is not consistent with being subjected to the principled realism ordained by those who seek to  organize the administration of justice based on a monopoly of coercive power over sovereign human beings in a particular territory. Arguably past so-called Christian states relied more on Roman political and legal precedents and Talmudic political ideology than Jesus' exhortations to 'love one another as I have loved you.'

In effect, Torahite 'principled realism' is materialistic and atheistic and to the extent that the oral foundation for Christian governance was founded on a false authoritarian Torahite perception of the ten commandments it has not been a valid model for Christian governance because Jesus taught that unconditional love is the solution to all governance both for the individual and the community.

According to the Christian worldview, human government was instituted by God to protect our unalienable rights from our own selfish tendencies (Genesis 9:6; Romans 13:1-7).

Human nature is of course capable of both vice and virtue.

We know our tendency to infringe on our neighbor's rights in an effort to improve our own life. Therefore, we know government and political systems must exist to protect freedom and to keep evil tendencies at bay.

[Ron: I disagree. Arguably the tendency to infringe on our neighbour's rights has been greatly exacerbated by Talmudic ideologiy and the authoritarian and barbaric imposition of that ideology by demonic and greedy monarchs, oligarchs and elites over many millenia. A salient part of those oppressive governance and political systems has been the denial of true personal and societal freedom by  pre-Christian and ostensibly Christian governments as well as  current post-Christian governments. In fact all large governance and political systems invariably seem to result in fraudulent, corrupt and oppressive control and exploitation of most of the population. The idea that governments must exist to protect freedom and restrict evil is the laughable product of elitist propaganda. Currently governments always seem to centralise and monopolise economic and social control and the cost of maintaining the politicians and bureacrats required to do that is generally estimated to be about 15-20% of total production. Accordingly, IF central governance was abolished except for a small specialised unit required to maintain a state's foreign relations, some 15% of productivity could be retained for use at local and regional levels. Arguably the best way to prevent neighbours infringing on each others' rights is to have active, generally unpaid local community organisations oversighting and policing local affairs.].

The right of self-determination and governance of nation states allows for a more civilized society.

[Ron: What is meant by these words?].

In this new definition in the New Testament and under the long centuries called, Christendom, the Ruler served as protector of his population. But they were not above the law.

It also secured the biblical vision of independent nations we have come to know.

Since the Westphalian peace in Europe (1648) this vision has witnessed a variety of regimes but the notion of limited government and separation of powers guide all those that endure.

Threats have come from those with imperial designs, whether ancient kingdoms, third reichs or communist revolutions.

[Ron: What about repressive governance masquerading as democratic, Liberal Capitalism?

The Christian centuries were marked by religion taking a prominent place in public life and a thorough and open debate about just policies.

[Ron: I disagree. Arguably the Christian religion was organised and formalised by the Roman Emperor Constantine under the influence of Pharisees who inserted a materialistic, ethno-centric, genocidal streak by the insertion of the Torah and aspects of Pharisaic ideology into the Bible. Moreover, the Christian religion received its  feudal shape from the reforms imposed on the Roman Empire by  Roman Emperors Diocletian and Constantine who were almost certanly greatly influenced by Pharisees. Arguably developments like Magna Carta in England were initially the result of power struggles between nobles and monarchs and even the so-clled Gorious Revolution in  Britain in 1689 was greatly influenced by neo-Pharisees and their money. Thorough and open debates were probably no more prominent in the "Christian centuries" than they are today. Clearly today and in the previos century public life and debate has been a monstrous propaganda charade. ].

In this post-Christian era of globalism and totalitarianism - from the left and the right - the basis and fact of both of these principles has been more or less eradicated.

There is less and less freedom and the State has increasingly taken a monolithic and bureaucratic stranglehold on both persons and families, and on the other mediating structures so critical to a Christian definition of life. This includes the Church itself.

[Ron: Arguably globalism and totalitarianism are not new in the sense that their common denominator in centralised control which were inherent in the Talmudic political ideology of the Pharisees and the political organisation of the Roman Empire.

Trump and Orban start from a totally different and non-liberal place. [Ron: Presumably the word 'liberal' in this context means cultural Marxism which is an outgrowth of Talmudism.].

They are conservatives and nation builders, not leftist socialists, who decry all countries, and want none.

Their very definitions are radically diametrical to the prevailing globalist elite and its cosmopolitan ideology of-no borders, no, nations, and no limits on governmental control.

The Trump-Orban view of the world would alter all this and return us to the sound and just sovereignty of nations.

The world is taking notice of this friendship and the worldview it represents!


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