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Paedophiles & Psychiatrists - The Public Interest to Protect Powerful Paedophiles
By Craig Murray with comments by Ron
Apr 21, 2015 - 3:24:21 AM

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The Public Interest to Protect Powerful Paedophiles

by craig on April 16, 2015 9:32 am in Uncategorized

The Director of Public Prosecutions has decided that it would not be in the public interest to prosecute serial paedophile Greville Janner, for many years the leader of the Zionist [Ron; ie Jewish] lobby in the UK. I presume that his convenient senility is the reason for non-prosecution.

But the facts of Janner’s activities in Leicester care homes have been known for decades, and there was overwhelming evidence in one particular case. The failure of the state to act against Janner when he was a Labour MP and Chairman of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, is another example of the disgraceful impunity of the powerful in this country. In a pattern that has become familiar to us, police investigating the case were in 1989 warned off by their superiors.

Given Janner’s later preying on boys from care homes, I cannot read this without a shudder. In publishing it, I in no way intend to demean the dreadful suffering of the child survivors of the Holocaust.

[Ron: WTF! There was NO Holocaust! NONE! Which means there were NO "child survivors" thereof, AND therefore NO "dreadful suffering" of mythical "child survivors". In any event, WHY is this irrelevant piece of lying Jewish bullshit inserted into this discussion?! How is it relevant to the fact that a Jew HAS inflicted "dreadful suffering" on numerous gentile boys in UK boys care homes and NOT been investigated let alone charged in relation to what he did?!]. It appears that Janner may have been preying on the most vulnerable of children for his own purposes, and there could have been a sick motive to his concern:

I was taken up to the Kinderheim, to the Children’s Home, where there were some sixty orphan children, most of whose lives had been saved by monasteries, by being out in the woods or by miracles in each case and they all spoke Yiddish and I didn’t speak Yiddish and it was very difficult to talk to them but we knew some of the same songs so we sang together in Hebrew they knew and I knew the songs and then one of them said to me the first Yiddish words I’ve ever learnt , he said “Gavreal”, which is Greville in Hebrew and (he) called me “Gavreal spishtie ping pong, ping pong” and he pushed back and forwards as though he was holding a ping pong bat so my first words in Yiddish were “ping pong” and I played Ping Pong with them and they taught me a few words of Yiddish and I found it such a moving experience that for the next eighteen months I went back to them every weekend.

My emphasis. Indeed I wonder if this is where it all started for Janner? [Ron: WTF?!].

Janner is on “leave of absence” from the House of Lords. But according to the parliamentary website, he still retains the following positions, and it appears that not one of these organisations has repudiated him:

Vice President – The Association for Jewish Youth
Vice President – The Jewish Leadership Council
President – The Association of Jewish Ex-Servicemen and Women
Advisory Board – Community Security Trust
Vice President – The World Jewish Congress
Chairman – The Holocaust Educational Trust
Director – The United Jewish Israel Appeal

It is wildly inappropriate, in particular, for the Association for Jewish Youth and the Community Security Trust not to formally dissociate themselves from Janner, and I call on all these organisations to make a statement. The silence is deafening.

62 Comments

  1. John Spencer-Davis

    16 Apr, 2015 - 9:43 am

    Craig Murray
    16/04/2015 9:32 am

    If Lord Janner is suffering from dementia, presumably he has had a formal diagnosis from a consultant [Ron: Jewish?] psychiatrist.

    I doubt that his family are the only people who believe he is suffering from dementia, and if they are then he should be tested by a qualified psychiatrist forthwith. The DPP could require that to be done. I assume that that has been done, in which case it is not proper to describe it as “convenient senility”. Dementia is a physical disease with physical symptoms, not a chimerical mental illness. [Ron: Really?! Ya think? In truth psychiatry is an entirely BOGUS Jewish inventiom, just ask Sigmund Freud and his nephew, Edward Bernays. Better yet, read: Psychiatrists and prostitutes: 5 sad similarities. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Psychiatrists-and-prostitutes-5-sad-similarities.shtml

    America's leading psychiatrist convicts himself of crimes against humanity. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/America-s-leading-psychiatrist-convicts-himself-of-crimes-against-humanity.shtml

    Scientists: Creativity Part of ‘Mental Illness’. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Scientists-Creativity-Part-of-Mental-Illness.shtml

    Psychiatric ‘Bible’ Advisors Report Conflicts of Interest. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Health_and_Nutrition_37/Psychiatric-Bible-Advisors-Report-Conflicts-of-Interest.shtml].

     

  2. The fact that someone has a diagnosis of dementia does not necessarily mean that they do not have the legal capacity to present a defence at a trial. That is a medical opinion. Again, possibly a court should be the proper place to decide that, by appointing suitable medical personnel.

    Kind regards,

    John

  3. Another shocking cover up of a alleged paedophile’s activities. It’s not so much whether there is a diagnosis or not, it’s the length of time that the ‘investigation’ has taken. Years in fact.

    Do not expect too much either from the Goddard enquiry presently ongoing.

  4. John,

    Remember Ernest Saunders?

    I find it strange that they are saying “not in the public interest”. If it were that clear-cut, would they not say “medically unfit to stand trial”?.

  5. John Spencer-Davis

    16 Apr, 2015 - 10:06 am

    I do indeed remember Ernest Saunders very well – a medical miracle, the only person in history to make a recovery from pre-senile dementia.

    Saunders should have been prosecuted on his “recovery”.

    Yes, that is what I would have expected, which is why I would very much like to know if he has been tested and received a diagnosis. Also if he has been tested privately, by a consultant psychiatrist who has been paid by the family, or by an independent psychiatrist appointed by the DPP or by a judge, who could review test results, for example, or test again.

    I think that if that has not happened, the victims (and the public generally) should be outraged, and should demand that that should be done.

    Kind regards,

    John

  6. Beeston Regis

    16 Apr, 2015 - 10:08 am

    Will it ever be “in the public interest” to prosecute any of these high level [Ron: Talmudic] paedophiles?

  7. Is there actually a public interest test when deciding whether to prosecute alleged child abusers? I naively thought that ALL alleged child abusers were liable to be prosecuted – if there was evidence enough to do so. Never heard of a public interest test before, it sounds curious. I guess this means that there are alleged child-abusers who the public have no interest in seeing prosecuted. Coincidentally, they are all powerful men heavily linked to the establishment. Odd that.

    A prosecution can also throw light on the alleged crime, even if there isn’t a great deal to be gained in sending the senile fella to jail. Ah, I get it now …

  8. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/16/lord-janner-no-trial-abuse-claims

    “Detectives have interviewed more than 25 men who claim they were abused by Greville Janner in their youth”

  9. Could Janner be prosecuted by the Scottish legal system? Maybe it is in the interests of the Scottish public.

  10. If the Crown Prosecution Service will not bring a case, there are other prosecution services that may have the authority to do so, or at least challenge the decision of the CPS; the UK alone has four, and there are allegations from twenty-five men, some of whom may fall under different jurisdictions:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_Public_Prosecutions#United_Kingdom

  11. Clark

    Not, I fear, unless any were committed in Scotland. But I am not convinced the Scottish legal establishment is really less corrupt – cf Hollie Greig (sorry, may have misspelt that). The legal establishment needs to be radically addressed post independence.

  12. Funny how these elite nonces always seem to get terribly ill, too ill to try, just as the noose is closing around their necks.

    One law for the rich etc…

  13. Craig, please look through Matt Quinn’s arguments on your recent False Flag thread; the Hollie Greig allegations may have been exaggerated as a stick to beat the SNP with – I stress that I have not looked at much of the evidence, but Matt Quinn does seem informed, and argues fairly and intelligently.

  14. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:18 am

    I share Craig’s outrage and sense of disgust and agree with all of the comments made so far, in particular those concerning

    – what is “the public interest”
    – who exactly has diagnosed the senile dementia
    – the reminder of Ernest Saunders’s miraculous recovery.

    On the first point, I should have thought it would always be in the public interest to pursue paedophiles, especially when the police have actually managed to gather sufficient evidence to recommend prosecution of someone who is, by a miracle, still alive (the case of Jimmy Savile refers).

    In the same connection, I also recall that age is no barrier to the prosecution of former Nazi war criminals (about a few of whom the “senile dementia” argument was also tried – unsuccessfully).

    ***********************

    As a more general question: this is not the first time we have seen the DPP declining to prosecute on the grounds that it would not be in the public interest. Are the reasons and motivations for such decisions made public or are we just expected to take the DPP’s word for it?

  15. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:18 am

    A further question: is a private prosecution possible in such cases?

  16. Clark

    On the Hollie Greig case, I am aware that there are attempts to use it to implicate senior SNP figures unfairly. But there is still something very wrong there; my comment that it casts doubt on Scotland’s legal establishment was carefully phrased, and relates to the detail of the case.

  17. Janner was still able to attend the HoL and pick up his £300 a day until fairly recent times.

    My comment on an earlier thread.

    ‘I have made a more thorough check on the HoL expenses claims.

    Janner did attend the HoL in November 2013. He claimed £2,100 for 15 days.
    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-finance-office/2013-14/allowances-expenses-2013-14-month-8-november.pdf

    Attended for 12 days in December 2013 but did not claim. Why not?

    No attendance recorded in the January 2014 and February 2014 records when the entries stop at the end of financial year! It is now July 2014 so we have no idea what went on for the last five months. Wonderful.

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/whos-in-the-house-of-lords/house-of-lords-expenses/

    What does his daughter, the rabbi think? Is she standing by him? Probably.’

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/hysteria-versus-impunity/#comment-466821

    Anon was on watch on that thread plus Habbabkuk using a different avatar.

    On the same thread, Fedup catalogued all the allegations made against Janner going back to 1991.
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/hysteria-versus-impunity/#comment-467063

  18. “The Director of Public Prosecutions has decided that it would not be in the public interest to prosecute serialpaedophile Greville Janner, for many years the leader of the Zionist lobby in the UK.”

    My emphasis. And there you have Craig’s only motivation and interest in the case.

  19. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:42 am

    Mary

    “Anon was on watch on that thread plus Habbabkuk using a different avatar.”
    __________________

    Yes, one comment from me and several from Anon (and indeed, several from you).

    Your point is…..?

  20. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:46 am

    Further to my question at 11h18 : should it be the case that the DPP is not required to motivate his decision that a prosecution would not be in the public interest (I’m still awaiting an answer to that question from someone on here), one could of course hope that one or the other MP might raise the matter in the HoC.

    But of course I forget – the HoC is no longer sitting.

    Very convenient.

  21. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:49 am

    Anon1

    “My emphasis. And there you have Craig’s only motivation and interest in the case.”
    _________________

    I do not believe that that is the case.

  22. Yes, Mary, I was watching that thread. The watchword on that thread appeared to be “Jewish” or – in code – “Zionist” paedophilia.

    As a tester I threw in some related points about the abuse of thousands of white children by grooming gangs. These paedophiles, who happened to be Muslim, were, perhaps unsurprisingly, of no interest to the blog cotery. Presumably because they aren’t Jewish/Zionist, and as such there are no points to be scored or scores settled. Rather gives the lie to the claims to be concerned for the victims, don’t you think?

    You’ll know all about this from your own “human rights” activism.

  23. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 11:57 am

    Mary

    Since you have thought it appropriate to refer to me in connection with a thread from last year, perhaps you’ll allow me to refer to a thread of a day or so agao in which you appear?

    It was when you said:

    “‘Whispering’ Nick Robinson sees Clegg back in Downing Street. LOL.”

    I replied as follows:

    “Nick Robinson is ‘whispering’ at the moment because he’s recovering from an operation.

    An operation to remove a bronchial carcinoid tumour.”

    Since then, you have tried to brush aside the matter and have even claimed that you were only saying that Nick Robinson went back to work too soon.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Would you now have the grace toagree with me that your use of the word “whispering” was at worst malicious and at best tasteless in the extreme?

    Otherwise known as cancer.

  24. John Spencer-Davis

    16 Apr, 2015 - 12:12 pm

    The blog of the Crown Prosecution Service gives a comprehensive statement regarding Lord Janner and the decision not to prosecute.

    http://blog.cps.gov.uk/2015/04/the-decision-not-to-prosecute-lord-janner-statement-from-the-dpp.html

    You will see, that if he did not have a formal diagnosis of Alzheimer’s Disease, the CPS would most definitely be prosecuting him. And should have done so long ago, as they admit.

    Assuming that the blog is accurate, personally I am satisfied that Lord Janner would be unable to present a defence to the courts because he lacks mental capacity, and therefore he would be found unfit to plead. The decision by the CPS is the right one.

    Selected highlights.

    “The CPS has concluded that Lord Greville Janner should not be prosecuted because of the severity of his dementia which means he is not fit to take part in any proceedings, there is no treatment for his condition, and there is no current or future risk of offending.”

    “At the outset, it is emphasised that but for medical considerations, it would undoubtedly have been in the public interest to prosecute. Public interest factors in favour of a prosecution include that the allegations are of very serious offending; the complainants were young, vulnerable children and the allegations involve the alleged abuse of power and position. The CPS equally has no doubt that, if the correct decisions had been taken about the evidential test in relation to the previous investigations, the public interest test would have been passed and prosecution should have followed.”

    “In 2009, Lord Janner was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, which is the most common cause of dementia. Alzheimer’s disease is a physical disease affecting the brain. Alzheimer’s is a progressive disease, which means that gradually, over time, more parts of the brain are damaged. As this happens, the symptoms become more severe. There is no treatment or cure.

    Four medical experts, all experienced and highly qualified, have examined Lord Janner – two instructed by his own legal team, two by the police and prosecutors. The most recent medical report is dated 31 March 2015. The key findings are as follows:

    •Lord Janner is suffering from a degenerative dementia which is rapidly becoming more severe. He requires continuous care both day and night.
    •His evidence could not be relied upon in court and he could not have any meaningful engagement with the court process, and the court would find it impossible to proceed.
    •On the Mini Mental State examination all four doctors were in general agreement as to the level of cognitive ability.
    •The condition will only deteriorate, there is no prospect of recovery.
    •Manipulation (“putting it on”) is “out of the question”.
    •There is no risk of future offending.”

    But please read the whole report for yourselves – it is shocking.

    Kind regards,

    John

  25. John Spencer-Davis

    16 Apr, 2015 - 12:19 pm

    The only thing in the report that slightly concerns me is that there is no reference to any physical examination of Lord Janner such as a CT scan. The reference by the doctors is to the MMSE (Mini Mental State Examination), which is a verbal / written test.

    I would like to know if physical brain examinations have been performed.

    J

  26. The Telegraph version

    Lord Greville Janner will not face child sex abuse trial after Crown Prosecution Service ‘mistakes’

    CPS admits Lord Janner should have been prosecuted over string of ‘extremely serious’ claims as police explore possible legal challenge and Labour suspend him

    Labour Lord Greville Janner’s home ‘raided as part of child sex allegations’

    By Martin Evans, Crime Correspondent
    11:02AM BST 16 Apr 2015

    A veteran Labour peer who will not stand trial for historic sex abuse allegations because of the “severity” of his dementia would have been charged with a string of offences against children, it has been confirmed.

    The Crown Prosecution Service admitted it made “mistakes” and Lord Janner should have been prosecuted earlier as Labour suspended him from the party.

    Leicestershire Police said they are “exploring what possible legal avenues there may be to challenge” the decision by the CPS not to prosecute.

    It said allegations against Lord Janner are “extremely serious” and the evidence against him would have warranted a criminal trial.

    But the 86-year-old’s poor health means prosecutors have decided not to pursue the case in the courts.

    /..
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11541367/Lord-Greville-Janner-will-not-face-sex-abuse-trial-over-severe-dementia.html

    ~~

    How are his victims feeling right now?

  27. Habbabkuk; “Would you now have the grace toagree with me that your use of the word “whispering” was at worst malicious and at best tasteless in the extreme?”

    Mary use of the adjective was innocent, unlike your malicious & cruel ploy of making a bogus issue about cancer against somebody just about to enter a cruel stage of cancer treatment; you are beyond disgusting.

  28. I think there is a bigger story here, which has to do with the hypocrisy of the state in all things relating to children. We are told that children are top priority, but this is voted one of the worst places in the world to raise a child. We are told that the family law courts put the wishes and needs of children first, and yet millions of children are prevented from having a loving relationship with their father. Many more are living in poverty and go hungry. Nobody is interested in the figures of dads who are in despair because the court regards them merely as people who need to be in full-time employment so as to offset the benefits that are paid to mothers, who are reduced to being domestic slaves so that we can protect the privilege of men in the public sphere. Nobody talks about the 100 males over the age of 16 who commit suicide every week, many of which are related to not being able to see their children. The family courts are not independent, as we are told, but completely in cahoots with the DWP, and surrounded by people who have to profit in a very big way from maximizing the misery of children and fathers. Whenever I hear the word paedophilia, I generally regard it as more scare-mongering, and more abuse heaped on the male gender; but what disgusts me most is when those who are really guilty of it beyond a doubt (rather than simply having it alleged for political reasons) escape punitive measures simply because of who they are. It appears that the more scandalous government behaves, the easier it is for it to get away with what it does. It’s genius.

  29. Re “Mary use of the adjective was innocent, unlike your malicious & cruel ploy of making a bogus issue about cancer against somebody just about to enter a cruel stage of cancer treatment; you are beyond disgusting.”

    Typo corrections;

    ” use of the adjective was innocent, unlike your malicious & cruel ploy of making a bogus issue about cancer against somebody just about to enter a stage of cancer treatment; you are beyond disgusting.

  30. Forget clever formatting ! typos = Mary s/be Mary’s cruel stage s/be crucial stage

  31. 9.Sir Thomas Hetherington QC (1977–1987; first head of CPS)
    10.Sir Allan Green QC (1987–1992)
    11.Dame Barbara Mills DBE QC (1992–1998)
    12.Sir David Calvert-Smith QC (1998–2003)
    13.Sir Ken Macdonald QC (2003–2008)
    14.Sir Keir Starmer KCB QC (2008–2013)
    15.Alison Saunders CB (2013–present)

    Shame on them.

    Starmer was knighted and is standing for Labour in Holborn and St Pancras.

    Macdonald is now Lord Macdonald of River Glaven. LD and one time crony of the BLiars. Co-founder of Matrix Chambers with Cherie Booth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Macdonald#Director_of_Public_Prosecutions

    Calvert-Smith became a High Court judge.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Calvert-Smith#Directorship_of_Public_Prosecutions

    Mills has died. Her brother in law was David Mills, husband of Tessa Jowell ex Labour minister and soon to stand for London mayor. She is back with Mills from whom she seperated following the scandal about cash bribes from Berlusconi.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Mills

    Allan Green. Oops. Caught kerb crawling, allegedly.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Green_(barrister)

  32. Excellent artcle and clearly an election issue, but the BBC, challenged by its own guilt, is still collaborating with the DPP, what a wretched stink!.

    When we can prosecute old pensioners, DJ’s and performers and and, why should a public representative that has abused the children of his erstwhile voters be allowed to evade justice.

    Moreover, with Rotherham, Sheffield and many other counties desperate to keep the past under wraps, what is justice in Britain today?

    Hang him!

  33. What is being supported by the silent lobby groups.

    Zionism in Action 14 April 2015

    Resistance fighter dies from wounds received in Israel’s 2014 blitz on Gaza

    Israeli Navy opens fire on Palestinian fishing boats

    Incursions: Israeli Army storms 2 Gaza villages’ farmland and bulldozes crops

    Israeli Army positions open fire on farmland in 3 Gaza districts

    Israeli soldiers photograph children walking to school

    Israeli Army raids – 2 Palestinian homes destroyed

    Night peace disruption and/or home invasions in 4 refugee camps and 14 towns and villages

    6 attacks (6 Israeli ceasefire violations)

    29 raids including home invasions

    1 beaten – 1 death – 2 injured

    7 acts of agricultural/economic sabotage

    37 taken prisoner – 6 detained

    94 restrictions of movement

    Home invasions: 12:20-15:20, al-Bireh – 03:20, Beit Liqiya – 03:10-06:40, Assira al-Shimalya – 05:00-06:40, the Balata refugee camp – 03:00-04:00, Husan.
    Peace disruption raids: 10:30, Beit Hanina – 12:15, Silwan – 20:35, Ya’bad – 02:20, Tubas – 02:20, the al-Far’a refugee camp – 10:00-13:50, Sahil Attil – midnight, Kafr al-Labad – midnight, al-Haffassi – midnight, Azun – midnight, Kafr Thulth – 08:00, al-Sawiya – 05:00-06:40, Nablus – 05:00-06:40, the Askar refugee camp – 05:00-06:40, the Ein Beit al-Ma’ refugee camp – 22:50-05:10, Kifl Hares – 15:20, Jericho – 11:05, Beit Fajjar – 12:15, Beit Jallah – 03:35, Beit Jallah – 12:45, al-Doha – 21:30, Beit Fajjar – 14:40, Bab al-Zawiya – 23:25, Hebron – 01:25, al-Samou’.

    Palestinian missile attacks: none.

    Death: Gaza – Palestinian Resistance fighter, Ilwat Nidal Ilwat, died of wounds received in Israel’s 2014 blitz on the Gaza Strip.

    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Navy attack – economic sabotage: Northern Gaza – morning, the Israeli Navy opened fire on Palestinian fishing boats off al-Sudaniya.
    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Army attack – agricultural sabotage: Northern Gaza – morning, an Israeli Army position behind the Green Line opened fire on Abu Samarah farmland in north Beit Lahiya.
    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Army attack – agricultural sabotage: Gaza – morning, Israeli forces opened fire from behind the Green Line towards agricultural land in south-east Gaza.
    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Army incursion – agricultural sabotage: Khan Yunis – morning, the Israeli Army shot its way onto al-Fakhari agricultural land and bulldozed crops.
    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Army attack – agricultural sabotage: Khan Yunis – morning, an Israeli Army position behind the Green Line opened fire on farmland in east al-Khaz’a.
    Ceasefire violation – Israeli Army attack – agricultural sabotage: Rafah – morning, Israeli forces stormed agricultural land in the al-Nahda neighbourhood and opened fire while bulldozing crops.

    Home invasions and abductions: Ramallah – 03:20, Israeli soldiers raided Beit Liqiya and abducted two 16-year-old boys: Sa’id Assi and Musalim Assi.
    Home invasions and abductions: Bethlehem – 03:00-04:00, the Israeli Army raided Husan village, invaded several homes and abducted two minors: Mohammad Za’oul (16) and Rayan Hamara (17).
    Home invasions and injury: Nablus – 05:00-06:40, Israeli forces raided the Balata refugee camp, injuring one person, Abdel-Kareem Fatouh, as they invaded homes and took prisoner 25 people. Included among them were a woman, two reporters and two university professors.
    Israeli Army Gaza blockade enforcement: Northern Gaza – in north-west Beit Lahiya the Israeli Army took prisoner an unidentified person as he attempted to flee the Gaza blockade.
    Israeli Army mosque violation: Jerusalem – 09:00, settler militants, escorted by Israeli troops, invaded the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound and molested worshippers.
    Israeli Army stun and tear gas grenades: Jerusalem – 21:00, Ras al-Amoud: stun and tear gas grenades.
    Occupation settler agricultural sabotage – school disruption: Nablus – 09:10, a settler mob raided Orif village agricultural land and the local school.
    Occupation settler violence: Nablus – 17:40, Zionist militants raided Orif village and withdrew with the support of Israeli forces.
    Raid – home destroyed: Jerusalem – 10:30, the Israeli Army raided the al-Ishqira neighbourhood in Beit Hanina and destroyed a mobile home.
    Raid – home destroyed: Jerusalem – 12:15, Israeli troops invaded the Silwan neighbourhood and destroyed a Palestinian home.
    Raid – wells threatened: Tulkarem – 10:00-13:50, Israeli forces raided the Sahil Attil area and examined several wells.
    Raid – beating – hospitalisation: Tulkarem – midnight, the Israeli Army invaded the area between Kafr al-Labad and al-Haffassi villages, beating up and hospitalising a resident, Rami Abdel-Rahman.
    Raid – schoolchildren photographed: Nablus – 08:00, the Israeli Army raided al-Sawiya village and photographed local children as they made their way to school.

    14 April 2015 [Main source of statistics: Palestinian Monitoring Group (PMG). http://www.nad-plo.org/dailyreports.php

  34. Come now, What is Mossad to do? Nowadays no one minds buggery with consenting adults. With the degeneracy of Britain’s ruling elites, appalling corruption is wholly routine. To stand out amid all the internet canoodling, undignified sexual practices need to be impracticably spectacular.

    Child molest is the only adverse information we have left. When you blackmail a pedophile he stays blackmailed.

    If we can’t protect the Jewish State with blackmail, we’re going to have to target extra ICBMs on London… Now that’s not in the public interest, Is it? No one wants the Samson option.

  35. So glad your treatment does not stop your fingers moving Mary….:)
    what are they saying about the prospects of fracking down in ‘oil country’?

    What we must add to Mary’s list of internal Apartheid, killing and unrestrained breaking of human rights on a massive scale, is the external secret mongering b y a security service that uses every way possible to frustrate the ratification of the Iran deal.

    I would not be surprised if there is an attempt on Obama’s life before he ends his presidency, then noble Biden to support republican congress reps. in its aim to stifle , and/or hasten a new election.
    Germany and France have said that they expect the signed deal to be ratified by congress as it would otherwise look silly having given its support to a diplomatic solution.

    @ Jeff, you’re talking tough, but what do you know of France’s force de frap targeting?

  36. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:09 pm

    Macky

    “Mary use of the adjective was innocent.”
    ______________

    Mary uses nothing “innocently” – she has too much form.

    For the record, she made fun of Nick Robinson’s voice as he was recovering from a cancer operation (the removal of a bronchial carcinoid tumour)by calling him “Whispering Nick Robinson” and adding a LOL for good measure.

    I can imagine the meal you would have made of it, Macky, if I had started a response to Mary with something like “Mary croaks:”.

    You are really beyond disgusting.

  37. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:17 pm

    Mary (13h56)

    Over 50 lines on Israel/Palestine, soooooo on topic.

    Nice diversion, Mary!

    Both from the subject of this thread and from your finding Nick Robinson’s voice funny after his cancer operation.

    Can you not find it in yourself to admit – if only for once – that you were completely out of line and to apologise?

  38. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:18 pm

    Nevermind

    “Excellent artcle and clearly an election issue, but the BBC, challenged by its own guilt, is still collaborating with the DPP”
    _________________

    In which way is the BBC “collaborating” with the DPP, Nevermind?

  39. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:21 pm

    Nevermind

    “I would not be surprised if there is an attempt on Obama’s life before he ends his presidency”
    ____________________

    But not as surprised as I would be if you would one day stop talking the awful piss you come out with all the time.

  40. He’s spot on there. I do croak since one vocal cord went in the thyroidectomy.

    These are crocodile tears for Mr Robinson from the troll. Just a diversion of course. Mountains out of molehills.

    This is Mr Robinson, who conveys the state’s propaganda messages to the people, in action.

    Nick Robinson Caught Lying About Alex Salmond Not Answering A Question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rU8YU3loeQ

    and when he got angry and took it out on a placard!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rU8YU3loeQ LOL

  41. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:30 pm

    “The only thing in the report that slightly concerns me is that there is no reference to any physical examination of Lord Janner such as a CT scan. The reference by the doctors is to the MMSE (Mini Mental State Examination), which is a verbal / written test.

    I would like to know if physical brain examinations have been performed.”
    __________________

    I second the above. And suspect that the answer is no.

    As any fule no, MMSEs are like IQ tests – the subjects can be coached (or coach themselves); furthermore, they are intrinsically subjective.

    Now of course in some countries, people can be tried in absentia, which is the physical equivalent of Janner’s alleged Alzheimers. Pity the UK doesn’t have that possibility.

  42. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:35 pm

    Mary

    “He’s spot on there. I do croak since one vocal cord went in the thyroidectomy.

    These are crocodile tears for Mr Robinson from the troll. Just a diversion of course. Mountains out of molehills.

    This is Mr Robinson, who conveys the state’s propaganda messages to the people, in action.

    Nick Robinson Caught Lying About Alex Salmond Not Answering A Question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rU8YU3loeQ

    and when he got angry and took it out on a placard!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rU8YU3loeQ LOL”
    __________________

    Decent people, Mary, do not let their dislike of someone’s political views or reporting style lead them into making cracks about the physical after effects of that person’s operation for cancer.

    Perhaps you need to take time off from monitoring Gaza and take some lessons in common decency.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Anyway, it’s clear you’re not going to admit you were out of line and apologise. End of exchange.

  43. Note how Habbakuyk uses the forum-sliding technique to try and deep-six mention of Israeli pedophile-blackmail and nuclear targeting policies at 2:21.

  44. Habbabkuk; “Mary uses nothing “innocently”

    You really should give up trying to read people, as this is yet another “Habbabkuk Moment”; a wise ancient Greek once said that there is no sin except stupidity; just like you misread John Goss’ Post on South America, your stupidity is only much by your vileness, from which it of course ultimately derives, as nobody with any intelligence would choose to be so obnoxious.

  45. Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    16 Apr, 2015 - 3:58 pm

    “Note how Habbakuyk uses the forum-sliding technique to try and deep-six mention of Israeli pedophile-blackmail and nuclear targeting policies at 2:21.”
    ___________________

    What I do note is how the author of the above and other of Mary’s friends are accusing me rather than gently suggesting to Mary that she boobed rather badly.

    I also note how both the author of the above and Mary with her 50+ lines about Israel/Gaza/West Bank are attempting to divert attention from both the subject of this thread and Mary’s lapse into indecency.

  46. No, being an annoying little prick helps boost the volume of reply messages, and with his natural whiny manipulative nature habbakkuykk doesn’t need to think hard about the content. His purpose is to move the forum safely away from refernces to Epstein’s Mossad honeytraps and the 6 MT airburst with Queen Elizabeth’ name on it.

  47. Nobody gives a fuck about some British pedo toff’s cancer. What about the entire male population of Israel shooting blanks because the DU from Palestine drifted back home, WHAT ABOUT THAT? WHWAT ABOUT THAT!!!1! You sterile Zionazis are all slowly going extinct and the last one left will turn the lights out with their Agnis and stolen US pits.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/10/neo-duff-why-america-is-being-targeted/

  48. Another advantage of the ancient Athenian system over current Western allegedly democratic systems: in Athens, prosecution was by private parties. (And there was a protection against frivolous prosecutions: if a sufficiently small percentage of the jurors voted to convict, the private prosecutor was deprived of various rights, including the right to bring further prosecutiosn.)

    Just another example of how Athens entrusted to private average citizens powers that are now restricted to members of the political class.

  49. Speaking of the Samson Option, I do wonder whether it can be neutralized by jamming communication between satellites and Israeli missiles, so that their guidance goes haywire.

    In fact, I wonder if that can be done with all countries’ missiles and nuclear weapons. It would be wonderful if all nuclear weapons could be neutralized.

  50. John Spencer-Davis, 12:19 pm:

    “The only thing in the report that slightly concerns me is that there is no reference to any physical examination of Lord Janner such as a CT scan. The reference by the doctors is to the MMSE (Mini Mental State Examination), which is a verbal / written test”

    I think this is a major concern; a physical examination should be been done.

    – – – – – – – –

    Five excellent comments from Habbabkuk at 11:18 am, 11:18 am, 11:46 am, 11:49 am, and 3:30 pm.

  51. Didn’t General Pinochet escape prosecution as a result of some rather dubious medical pronouncements?

  52. The Richard Engel Kidnapping Fake – MoA [Moon of Alabama] Scooped MSM By 28 Month.

    The Western media have been lying about Syria just as they have been about Ukraine.

  53. Lysias; “The Western media have been lying about Syria just as they have been about Ukraine”

    Thanks for the MOA link; Western MSM is a joke, and even better a failing joke, as despite their best demonising efforts, guess who topped the TIME 100 readers’ poll;

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41557.htm

    (This will cause a few here some reality problems ! :D )

  54. Isn’t it time to stop crying and moaning?

    Take action!

    Only ACTION will remedy current situation…..
    and by action I mean quick and fast hanging,
    just like in the old West the would hang a
    horse thief on the spot with NO mercy.

    Afraid that god will punish you? There is
    no god that will punish the evil doer.

    Otherwise, these evil jews and other criminals
    like them (no matter what their race, religion or
    gender) would have been eliminated long ago!

    So, stop the soap opera and your tears. Real
    men don’t cry. They get even!!!

  55. Dear people posting here.

    LET ME CORRECT A mistake I made…..

    In my previous post I committed the sin
    of not acknowledging Craig’s wonderful contribution
    with his very informative and life-altering
    article.. THANKS, CRAIG!

    I will make it short and sweet.

    let’s top blaming the jews, the muslims, the elites,
    the freemasons, the illuminatis, the vatican,
    etc., etc., for all the evils on this planet.

    I will give you a very simple procedure to
    find out the REAL responsible ones for the sorry
    state of the world.

    Today or tomorrow, when you wake up and go to
    the bathroom to take a shower, shave, brush your
    teeth and whatever else you do there to prepare
    yourself for the new day, look at the image looking
    back at you from that mirror. THAT’S THE GUILTY ONE!
    YOU!!!

    Y&ES, WE ARE!!!

    There is only a limited number of zionist jew,
    members of the so called elite, muslims, jesuits,
    free masons, etc.. I would estimate that number
    to be less than 50 millions. Maybe 50
    millions is an unrealistically big number. But,
    let’s make this assumption for the purpose of this
    message.

    BUT…. WE are in the billions.

    How can you blame 50 millions (or less, probably
    a LOT less) for being able to dominate, manipulate and do
    whatever they want with the other BILLIONS
    — if it were not for the WILLING cooperation,
    submission and slave mentality of those BILLIONS?

    By being too nice, WE are cooperating with them to
    enslave US!

    The evil doers on this earth will go only as far as WE
    allow them to go.

    WE let them get away with murder. WE have done this
    for centuries. WE became mentally brainwashed to
    consider that OUR NORMAL behavior. WE WERE too scared
    to fight back.

    I think the fellow who said, “”The pen is mightier
    than the sword”” was a genius at mass brainwashing.
    By getting all of US to believe that with the PEN
    WE can defeat the SWORD, he got US too sell our
    individual freedom at a very small price. That was
    a stroke of genius!!!

    Remember the Golden Rule. “”The one who has the
    gold makes the rules”?

    How about “”The one who holds the sword and have all the
    weapons controls everything and rules everything.””

    Look at the USA, England, Russia, the old USSR, China,
    Hitler, Stalin, Mao, The Romans and so on.

    Do you really believe that they were on top of the world
    because of their mighty PENs…… or because they have/had
    all the WEAPONS?

    Why is it that they are doing their best to confiscate all
    the weapons from the American Citizens??? THESE PEOPLE
    ARE CRAZY!!! They should be confiscating all the PENs
    owned by each and every American Citizens, right?

    BUT…. they don’t do it because they know that
    “The pen is mightier than the sword” is REALLY
    a wonderful tool to enslave everybody who
    is fool enough to believe in this old propaganda.

    So, stop blaming anybody else. WE are the ones
    to blame.

    WE are the one who chose the mighty pen and ignored
    the FACT that the guy with the weapons OWNS us and also
    owns our PENs!

    Let get rid of the pen and let’s embrace the sword and
    the weapons.

    J.C.

  56. Brian Crossland

    17 Apr, 2015 - 1:35 pm

    Dementia is an official diagnosis and can only be given by a psychiatrist. Prior to any formal diagnosis such a syndrome indicative of dementia is usually referred to as memory or cognitive decline. So yes to have Dementia it has to be official with a named psychiatrist.
    I wonder though if this hasn’t got him off the hook, we would find a sudden terminal illness no one knew about and a swift private burial in an unmarked plot a la Leon Brittan.

  57. Enzil Dennistoun

    17 Apr, 2015 - 3:41 pm

    They didn’t use the same argument (dementia) when it came to the jews pursuing 90 year old so call war criminals, in fact they wanted to hang a 97 year old last year for so called war crimes.

  58. They’re not called “the usual suspects” for no reason.

  59. Find out where Paedophile Greville Janner lives. The rest is easy. Grab him. Somebody will. Or take the Mongrel to the World Court. Let the Mafia sort him out. ( Take out a Contract)

  60. Janner, chairman of the holacaust eductaion trust that Cameron donated fifty million pounds to in January.

  61. I notice that Lord Levy, BLiar compadre, is Hon President of the United Jewish Israel Appeal, of which Janner is still listed as an honorary vice president.

    http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-levy/2033

    http://www.ujia.org/about-us/our-people/ujia-lay-leaders/

    Honorary Presidents
    •The Lord Levy
    •The Rt. Hon. The Lord Woolf
    •Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis

    Honorary Vice-Presidents
    •The Lord Janner of Braunstone QC
    •Gerald M Ronson CBE

    Presidents
    •Sir Trevor Chinn CVO
    •David M Cohen
    •Mick Davis
    •Brian Kerner

    UJIA Chairman
    •Bill Benjamin*

    Vice-Chairmen
    •Geoffrey Ognall*

    Regional Chairmen
    •Ashley Gold
    •Martin Harris
    •Andrew Joseph
    •Richard Pinder
    •David Samson

    Honorary Treasurer
    •Warren Persky*

    Trustees
    •Keith Black
    •James Burchell
    •Alex Dwek
    •Ruth Green
    •Karen Harris
    •Jeremy Isaacs
    •Stuart Levy
    •Robert Randall
    •Jonathan Morris

    *Also Trustees of UJIA.

    The UJIA’s annual income and spending is declared at over £10million on the Charity Commission website.
    http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1060078&SubsidiaryNumber=0

  62. Regarding the recent decision not to prosecute Lord Janner I was just wondering if Keir Starmer would or should have been aware of the allegations during his tenure at the Crown Prosecution Service?

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/the-public-interest-to-protect-powerful-paedophiles/

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