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Political Information Last Updated: Apr 25, 2019 - 6:28:52 AM


"I am REALLY TIRED of seeing claims we can do away with monetary compensation, or worse, that this WILL happen, w/o any explanation"
By Tiger: rumormillnews.com with comments by Ron
Mar 3, 2019 - 1:14:59 AM

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RMN Reader Tiger writes:

Why do we keep seeing this statement, "Eventually, advanced
technologies will completely replace the need for money."

Advanced technologies require a lot of learning to manage properly.
They require a lot of people to want to learn about them. They require many more people to be interested in making them work than can be employed because many of these are not the best workers. Also, once
people get up to speed on advanced technologies, they need to be retained.

[Ron: The short answer to this unreflective question and to negative the stated justification for making it, is that Artificial Intelligence (AI) will eliminate about HALF of the work, ie paid employment that currently sustains HALF of the human population and well over HALF of the taxation used by governments to fund government controlled life on this planet under the monetary system imposed on humanity here because of the general acceptance of the money meme. Moreover, eventually Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) will virtually eliminate almost ALL of the work required to sustain an abundant, prosperous human life here.  Why? Because AI will become much faster and more accurate in performance of the non-intuitive work now done by humans. See eg: AV8 - Dr Graham Downing: Artificial Intelligence - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Environment_Science_69/AV8---Dr-Graham-Downing-Artificial-Intelligence.shtml And: AV8.1 - Slaves on a Digital Plantation - Patrick Henningsen - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Environment_Science_69/AV8-1---Slaves-on-a-Digital-Plantation---Patrick-Henningsen.shtml

Our world is already experiencing mass unemployment and underemplyment now, even before AI, let alone AGI, is fully implemented. See eg: The Permanent Unemployment & Underemployment Economy - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Permanent-Unemployment-Underemployment-Economy.shtml].

Money is a means of motivating people to have more than a passing
interest in some area. Statements made about eliminating money should
be rejected with disgust when they are not accompanied by some further
description of what replaces it
.

[Ron: I disagree with the suggestion that money 'is a means of motivating people to have more than a passing interest in some area.' That presupposes that humans need to be motivated to do anything. I think that, when not coerced, humans are very capable of energetic interest and activity in an unlimited range of activities and subjects. Arguably money is primarily a tool to facilitate the exchange of goods and services, BUT it is really an ideological tool. The money meme has been used to socially engineer humans on this planet to believe that it is essential for humans to create and use money for the purposes of facilitating the exchange of goods and services and for commerce and industry. However money isn't necessary for those purposes. All of the needs of human societies are actually met by the exercise of human ingenuity and labour using the physical, God given resources available on this planet. The money meme is merely an idea, a fiction that only exists due to its acceptance by the population. A spiritually mature human population does not need this mechanism any more than a loving family needs it to facilitate the life of the family. Mothers, fathers and siblings do not usually invoice each other for goods and services provided. In any genuine community money is, at best, cumbersome and creates much unnecessay work in law, accountancy and other activities, even if usury is not involved.

A major downside of the money meme is that its use creates a tendency for materialist thinking and it encourages people to hoard money in order to erroneously feel secure and/or to give them power over other people. Real security is created by spiritual community living in which everyone seeks to serve others more than self as is typical in loving families, extended families and clans. Once Presidents, Trump, Putin and Xi and their supporters eliminate the bankster controlled Deep State elements on this world we can eliminate usury and begin to wean the population off thinking they need money to live.

The advent and development of AI will only precipitate a crisis in relation to employment and hence attitudes to personal identity and social cohesion, IF currently dysfunctional anti-spiritual, materialistic ideas, beliefs, principles, attitudes and practices continue to govern concepts of personal identity and inter-personal relationships. Currently humans here have forgotten their sovereign identity and Oneness through son and daughtership in the Creator. That ignorance has translated into a slave mentality that has resulted in acceptance of personal dependance on authoritarian productivity and governance arrangements.

Our current global dystopia arises from widespread human feelings of insecurity due to the money meme based competitive societal ideology that causes the atomisation of communities through the separation, isolation and alienation of individuals which often even causes family members to squabble and fight over money. The result is that many (most?) people experience feelings of inadequacy and lack of personal sovereignty. That is the reason that humans here accept the slavery inherent in free range serfdom (ie wage slavery), personal income taxation by privately owned government corporations like the IRS, and authoritarian and often tyrannical governance arrangements. Those feelings and the beliefs they engender MUST be eliminated and replaced with an individual sense of godly sovereignty and independance if we are to turn the coming AI unemployment crises into a humitarian benefit for everyone. Those who prefer to cling to the money meme will be opting for the continuation of the current miserable dystopia in which we live today. No one, not even the enabler class of bankers, financiers,  politicians,  doctors,  lawyers, priests, executives and commentators et al can flourish as human beings under the current usurious banking cum monetary system. Only those who actually OWN and CONTROL the mega banks and corporations are free in today's world. See eg: How Interlinked Corporations Rule The World. - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/How-Interlinked-Corporations-Rule-The-World.shtml And: Corporate Transnational Warlord Pirates Are On the Run- Vanguard - http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Corporate-Transnational-Warlord-Pirates-Are-On-the-Run--Vanguard.shtml And: The Mystery of the One Bank: its Owners? - Jeff NielsonT. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Mystery-of-the-One-Bank-its-Owners---Jeff-Nielson_printer.shtml And: Collusion for Illusion: Australia’s “Big 4″ Banks are All Owned by the Same Financial Interest. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Collusion-for-Illusion-Australia-s-Big-4-Banks-are-All-Owned-by-the-Same-Financial-Interest.shtml And: The Real “Big 4″ Now Own Our Big Health Too. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Real-Big-4-Now-Own-Our-Big-Health-Too_printer.shtml And: The corporate stranglehold on food and agriculture. - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Health_and_Nutrition_37/The-corporate-stranglehold-on-food-and-agriculture.shtml].

AI will provide humans here with freedom from endless work currently needed to survive, provided that ownership of the robots and technology needed to provide abundance for all is either owned and properly administered by the republican governanced communities that they service or, if privately owned, the production used by the community is fully and properly taxed with only reasonable remuneration for production and distribution being retained by corporate owners and operaters. IF, and only if, relevant communities receive the benefit of robotic and technological productivity, will the communities in our world reap the immense benefits that will flow form AI. If future productivity is properly taxed and equitably distributed, the result will be general independance, abundance and increased individually chosen educational and scientific study, positive artistic and social activities and leisure for all who want it.  Freedom does require eternal vigilence but it can deliver people from endless drudgery and the fear of never having enough that is typical of our money meme dominated world.  That fear could fade away and be replaced by caring, sharing and gifting until we no longer FEAR scarcity and lack of having enough. THEN AI will become the BLESSING that it truly is.

Once we replace the effects of widespread Talmudic atheism and cultural
Marxism with a spiritual understanding of WHO we are and our place in the Cosmos, we will be free to replace our fearful, ego-centric, alienated attitudes to self and others with
loving, empathetic, inclusive, inter-personal relationships. As that happens we will naturally embrace active communal caring and sharing of all human activities including work and the resultant producton and the distribution thereof.

This will require a fundamental change in human awareness and consciousness on this planet. Increased consciousness is a spiritual attribute which must be attained before various truly human and effective practical methods of societal governance can be implemented.

If members of future communities do not attain significantly increased awareness about "money" and everything else, and hence a state of higher spiritual consciousness, all materialist utopian ideas will remain utopian; and social experiments to achieve them will end, as previously, in dystopias. Why? Because in the absence of greater awareness and higher spiritual consciousness individuals and collectives sink down to the the level of the lowest common consciousness denominator among community members. To be genuinely effective, future governance arrangements must be born of, and foster, spiritual evolvement that creates a sense of Oneness among community members. Formal constitutional and contractual legal obligations will not do that.

To achieve harmony and Oneness current negative memes associated with competition and ego-centrism need to be eliminated.The primary culprit in this regard is the money meme which fosters separation, psychic alienation and individual isolation, ego-centric competition and societal disharmony. The result is a fear ridden population which inhibits co-operation, sharing and caring, ie Oneness. Fearful people exalt force and violence and seek governance structures that satisfy that trait.

Accordingly, to avail ourselves of the Blessings that release us from the constant, onerous work the development of AI, robots, and all other technological advances will bring to us, we MUST eliminate belief in the money meme and the mind controlling belief that we must work for "money" and compete with everyone else for work, "money" and survival. The whole point of AI and technological advances is that they FREE humans from the endless labour hitherto needed in order to survive and thrive.

AI and technology are god-given tools designed to assist humans to grow and develop at the appropriate time in their evolution. For instance, over a century ago Nikola Tesla was gifted with much technical knowledge meant to assist humanity on this planet to develop and grow into higher consciousness. Tesla's inventions and patents were stolen and suppressed and used only by global Central Banksters and their controllers; and their Deep State minions and enablers. The same suppression treatment was meted out to Royal Raymond Rife and many others. As a result humanity here has largely remained ignorant, unaware and almost unconscious. In truth AI and robotic developments presage humanity's coming Golden Age on this planet. When it happens everyone will finally be free of perpetual drudgery and enslavement. Those who cannot see this prospect or refuse to accept it will be moved by Universe Management to other planets more suited to their level of personal spiritual development.

Money is a mental construct developed by those who seek to control and exploit others. Money has no value other than what humans project upon it. All its members can thrive spiritually and physically once a community understands that health, welfare and abundance for all depends on the shared physical work and ingenuity of its members carefully using, conserving and sharing available physical resources provided by the planet.

Humans here are not ready to ditch the use of "money"so, as a first step towards the Golden Age, every community must control money creation and its fair and appropriate distribution to ensure that ALL community members are catered for without anyone hoarding wealth for any reason. Proper control of money creation and use will quickly result in abundance for all. Concomitantly, the money meme associated FAUX legal system created by our global matrix controllers, including the creation of FAUX legal persons called corporations, must be eliminated.

Corporations are fictions created by humans using bits of paper and electronic digits. Like digital currency, they have no real existence. Currently, corporations granted legal (BUT unlawful in Divine, cosmic terms) PERSONHOOD are used by the global matrix controllers (aka Jewish Central Banksters and their hidden controllers) to own and control most governments and almost all the trans-national corporations that dominate the global economy. That situation must be eliminated if humans on this planet are to be free.See eg:Citizens United v. FEC: Corporate Personhood Must be Eliminated if Humanity is to Survive. - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Ron_71/Citizens-United-v-FEC-Corporate-Personhood-Must-GO-if-Humanity-is-to-Survive.shtml

in due course, a critical mass of humans needs to understand that the money meme is merely an enslavement device, and reject it. The future belongs to those who seek to serve others more than self so that human life will be lived in sharing, caring communities instead of fragmented, antagonistic societies based on competition and the pursuit of gain at the expense of others.

Prior to the demonic creation of the money meme and its imposition upon human consciousness on this planet thousands of years ago, families and tribes worked together to produce the means for survival and abundance. THAT model prefigures the social structure needed to cope with our future as a technologically advanced civilisation. The reason that the Talmudic cultural Marxists are seeking to alienate everyone by destroying the very idea of males and females let alone families, is so that the entire human population will be alienated and atomised by that antagonistic, Talmudic divide and conquer ideology. In that situation everyone is in conflict with everyone else and hence those who survive internecine conflict are unable to resist domination and control by the Talmudists.].

If on this planet we were given technologies developed off-planet, that we did not develop nor understand, we would be slaves to this charity-technology, we would not be feeding ourselves. It would be something like the Time Machines by H. G. Wells in which the population sat around reciting poetry and eating grapes while the labor of the world went on somewhere. Those who provided the technology and who actually built, serviced, and managed it would have only contempt for those who were "useless eaters". Further, the technology would be "magic" since not understood.

[Ron: Reference my above comments. In any event, no one on this planet "understands" ALL of the technologies ALREADY used here. Moreover, the current Talmudic global controllers are the ones who withhold knowledge and technology from most of humanity while treating them with contempt and seeing them as expendable useless eaters, NOW!].

So with what do these persons propose to replace money? 

-- Force? In the Soviet Union many persons were "given" a job to do, forced to take a job they did not select. The result was people who "walked through" these jobs for however many hours, then got home and  worked like hell in their gardens.
-- Mind Control? So now it has been decided we need to be absorbed
into the Collective as Borgs?

I am REALLY TIRED of seeing claims we can do away with monetary
compensation, or worse, that this WILL happen, without any explanation.
It sounds so much like "Hope And Change" that it makes me doubt EVERYTHING ELSE concurrently posted. I want anyone posting the "we can do away with money" claim to realize HOW MUCH this turns people AGAINST their message. We, especially at this site, are trying to discern truth. We don't buy Utopia. We have never seen anything like it work on Earth and we have no Evidence it works anywhere else, only vague claims. Please STOP THIS unless you have a wish to discredit yourself.

If technology replaces the NEED for money for people who do not work
to survive, it will still NOT replace the need for money to motivate
those who DO work. What, do you know someone who is glad to work for nothing? What? NOT ME. There are only a FEW Mother Teresa's in this world.

Read the history of money, and what money is, at GoldSilver.com. Mike
Maloney has done 8 or more free videos that are easy to follow.

Then you have more reading to do on economics. Money is a way of directing the productivity of an economy. It is a way for a society to direct its energies to producing the things its inhabitants value the most. Every time you buy one product over another product, that is a "vote" for that product, its quality, and its value. State-directed, "centrally-planned" economies, by contrast, adhere to a different agenda, because those who make the decisions find ways to direct wealth towards themselves, rarely if ever believe in innovation,
forbid new technologies, and have contempt for their citizenries.

Money provides incentives for people worldwide to help each other.
Money is GOOD and NECESSARY.

How does anyone propose to distribute goods and services without using money?

[Ron: People distribute goods and services, money doesnt! Money doesn't actually DO anything. It is a fiction. It doesn't exist except in the imagination of those who BELIEVE IN IT, and in the digits typed into computers where some 97% of the FIAT DEBT TOKENS called "money" reside. Money is ONLY created when a borrower pledges his/her credit to a bank by appending her/his signature to a contract whereapon some bankster fraudulently types the so-called loan amount into a computer. THEN, when the borrower pays off the loan PLUS interest, the "money" disappears. THAT is why "money" has to be continually borrowed into existance OR a RECESSION/DEPRESSION will result. Moreover, the banks NEVER create ANY "fiat debt token money"to pay the interest on the loan. Consequently there is NEVER enough "money" in the "economy"! The result is that ever more loans MUST be taken out otherwise the "money" supply contracts and a Recession/Depression results. When the Recession/Depression occurs the banks foreclose on loans and mortgages and TAKE the borrowers' assets for pennies on the dollar. Capiche?]


ANSWER THE QUESTION. If you REALLY BELIEVE we on Earth can do without money, "YOU GOT SOME 'SPLAININ' TO DO."

[Ron: If the above explanations are insufficient for you I recommend that the Abundanthope.net archives be perused for more information.].

Tiger

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