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Political Information Last Updated: Jan 14, 2020 - 12:07:47 PM

Big Brother Arrives: China Bans People With "Bad Social Credit" From Planes, Trains
By Tyler Durden with comments by Ron
Mar 21, 2018 - 3:02:08 AM

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Two years ago, we reported that various cities throughout China are currently piloting a "social-credit system" that will assign a "personal citizen score" to every single person based on behavior such as spending habits, turnstile violations and filial piety.

Hangzhou's local government is piloting a "social credit" system the Communist Party has said it wants to roll out nationwide by 2020, a digital reboot of the methods of social control the regime uses to avert threats to its legitimacy. [Ron: Why is the Chinese government referred to using the pejorative term "regime" and why is this author implying that China has to deploy 'methods of social control to avert threats to its legitimacy'? The Chinese government is said to have lifted 700 million citizens out of poverty in recent decades. And although China has a population four times the size of the US population it has far fewer people in prison than the US does. Is this author implying that China uses greater methods of social control than US and Euranglo governments do? If so, WHY?]

More than three dozen local governments across China are beginning to compile digital records of social and financial behavior to rate creditworthiness. A person can incur black marks for infractions such as fare cheating, jaywalking and violating family-planning rules. The effort echoes the dang'an, a system of dossiers the Communist party keeps on urban workers' behavior.

[Ron: Is this author suggestiong that Euroanglo-US "regimes" DON'T compile digital records of social and financial behaviour to rate creditworthinness? If so, WHY?]

In time, Beijing expects to draw on bigger, combined data pools, including a person's internet activity, according to interviews with some architects of the system and a review of government documents.

[Ron: The CIA and NSA have been doing this for everyone in the Western World for years and PRIVATE corporations like Google, YouTube and Facebook also do it. How do the Chinese government's intentions differ from what is already being done in Western nations?].

Input data for the social credit system comes from a variety of government sources.

We warned at the time that this 'score' could be used to blacklist citizens from loans, jobs, or travel, for example.

[Ron: This is already done in Euroanglo-US countries. Why do  Amerikkan commentators "WARN"  about it happening in China at sometime in the future when the US has had a secretly compiled "No Fly List" and random train, bus and highway citizen checkpoints for years?].

Algorithms would use a range of data to calculate a citizen's rating, which could then be used to determine all manner of activities, such as who gets loans, or faster treatment at government offices or access to luxury hotels.

[Ron: How does this differ from the actual situation in the US?]

So, imagine our shock, following China's massive censorship efforts over the last few weeks surrounding Xi's successful push to become emperor for life, when China said this week it will begin applying its so-called social credit system to flights and trains and stop people who have committed misdeeds from taking such transport for up to a year.

[Ron: WHY would any USan be "shocked" by this possibility when USans have suffered this type of covert surveillance and discrimination at least since 911?].

As Reuters reports,  people who would be put on the restricted lists included those found to have committed acts like spreading false information about terrorism and causing trouble on flights, as well as those who used expired tickets or smoked on trains, according to two statements issued on the National Development and Reform Commission's website on Friday.

[Ron: How are these restrictions more heinous than governments allowing private corporations restricting or banning your free speech usage of the internet and selling your personal information to other corporations (See eg: Cambridge Analytica and the Manipulation of People -; or having the government  covertly putting you on a "NO FLY LIST", or being forceable body searched at airports and bus and train stations.  OR losing your job for alleged anti-semitism and so on, as happens in the US? Moreover, in the EU you will not only lose your job but you can be incarcerated for years for querying the validity of the fraudulent Holocaust. .].

China has flagged plans to roll out a system that will allow government bodies to share information on its citizens' trustworthiness and issue penalties based on a so-called social credit score.

[Ron: This already occurs routinely albeit covertly, in the US.].

However, there are signs that the use of social credit scoring on domestic transport could have started years ago. [Ron: Well it certainly HAS in the US.].

In early 2017, the country's Supreme People's Court said during a press conference that 6.15 million Chinese citizens had been banned from taking flights for social misdeeds.

[Ron: China has a population in excess of 1.3 billion citizens. The US has a population of 320 million, that is less than a quarter that of China. The US has some 2.3 million people in prison. Moreover, the US has another 820,000 people on parole (a type of conditional release from prison) and a staggering 3.8 million people on probation (what is typically an alternative sentence). These people AND most convicted felons who have served their prison sentences are DENIED the right to vote in "democratic" Amerikka. See eg: Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2016 -

A global report from the International Centre for Prison Studies, which is widely reported and recently partnered with the Institute for Criminal Policy Research at Birkbeck, University of London estimates that China has 1.64 million sentenced prisoners, though it does not factor in citizens who are in pre-trial detention or "administrative detention," which could be around a half-million people. See: ].

President Xi Jinping's plan, based on the principle 'once untrustworthy, always restricted', will come into effect on 1 May...

The system is designed to automatically provide "green lanes" for faster access to government services for "well-behaved" citizens while levying travel bans and other punishments on those who get out of line.

[Ron:  Without due thought and analysis this sounds a bit draconian. BUT is it? What is apparent is that the Chinese are adopting policies that are the reverse of current dystopic Euranglo-US policies. In the US, UK and EU government policies overtly and grossly favour illegal immigrants and criminal behaviour by those immigrants and others such as Muslims. In particular US, UK and EU governments TAKE (via taxation using threats and violence) substantial portions of law abiding citizens' incomes, earned by their physical and mental exertions, and GIVE it to illegal immigrants and criminals many (most?) of whom do not contribute to their own upkeep or the benefit and welfare of the productive community. US Sanctuary Cities even flout US federal law by releasing and protecting illegal immigrants some of whom have committed serious crimes and even murder. That won't happen in China nor should it.

Moreover there is a disctinct prejudice against white heterosexual males in the US which, for example, is evidenced by their grossly inadequate representation in university enrolments that are disproprortionately dominated by Jews, Blacks and Asians, and female students. See eg: Jews at US Universities and Colleges - And: The Shocking, Massive Jewish Racist Discrimination at Harvard (Repost) - A commensurate prejudice is not apparent in relation to Han males in China.

THINK ABOUT THAT! It's ridiculous! It is also immoral and DRACONIAN! Compare that to assessing the behaviour of citizens (NOT illegal immigrants) and limiting the societal benefits available to them on the basis of accurate assessments of their unlawful actions and/or failure to contribute to community welfare. As always, the issue is one of BALANCE. The proposed Chinese policies need to be based on carefully and properly collected and assessed data and the policies must then be carefully and properly administered. That is possible in genuinely honest and balanced governance arrangements.

Such policies are necessary on this planet in its current state of limited spiritual development. However, as the population evolves into higher levels of consciousness and spirituality, the need for such formal legalistic administrative processes will recede. Negative thought and intent will become more obvious to everyone and societies will become much more decentralised and community oriented.] .

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