The journalist, who had conducted numerous interviews with the Pope, is known for writing the accounts of his conversations from memory rather than taking notes; while Pope Francis has yet to comment, the Vatican called his purported comments a "free interpretation" of what he actually said.
Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari has quoted Pope Francis as hereticaly rejecting the central Christian belief that Jesus rose from the dead in the same body in which he was buried.
[Ron: Esu Immanuel (aka Jesus the Christ) didn't rise from the dead. He didn't die on the Cross and was resusscitated and recovered and was taken to Damascus. There he frightened the bejabbers out of the Pharisees Saul of Tarsus (St Paul) wherafter he journeyed to India where he married and had children and died at about age 115. The Resurrection story is one of many lies inserted by the Pharisees into the false and misleading Christian doctrines they used to establish the Christian religion. Jesus didn't incarnate to establish a religion and didn't. He came to teach divine truths lost over millennia and corrupted by Pharisees and others. After crucifying Jesus the Pharisees sought to eradicate his teachings and so they distorted and corrupted his message (for example the Pharisee Saul of Tarsus (St Paul) taught that women must be subjected to male authority which was totally contrary to the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus' male disciples. Eventually the Pharisees influenced Roman Emperors to establish the Christian religion to further corrupt and nullify Jesus' teachings.
the Pharisees established the Christian religion to stamp out Jesus' Good News that EVERY ensouled human being (HUman) is an only begotten son or daughter of the Creator. That means that Jesus DID NOT and could not sacrifice himeslf to "save" humans. Each HUman is responsible for his/her own thinking and actions and culpable inaction(s) because the purpose of spirits incarnating into physicaliry is to learn about life, the universe and everything and to learn from mistakes (sins) so that eventually the individual eliminates mistakes and becomes ever more like God. This process requires myriad incarnations and that is why the Pharisees eventually got Emperor Justinian to eliminate all references to reincarnation from the Bible. THAT LIE, by omission, is the reason that many humans are sooo afraid of death. For a full discussion of these issues see eg my comments in Judaism and Christianity - Two Thousand Years of Lies - 60 Years of State Terrorism - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Judaism-and-Christianity---Two-Thousand-Years-of-Lies---60-Years-of-State-Terrorism.shtml ].
Scalfari claimed in a 5 November article in the newspaper Repubblica, which he had co-founded and edited, that Pope Francis told him of the Resurrection:
"He was a man until he was placed in the tomb by the women who recomposed his body. That night, in the tomb, the man disappeared and from that cave he came out in the semblance of a spirit that met the women and the Apostles while still preserving the shadow of the person, and then he definitively disappeared."
[Ron: If the Pope said this it is just another Talmidic lie.].
The quote attributed to the Pope is from Scalfari's new book, The One God and Modern Society, which centres on his interviews with Pope Francis and the late Cardinal Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, the former Archbishop of Milan.
Detailed in the New Testament, the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ after his crucifixion is one of the main pillars of the Christian faith.
[Ron: This was just another major Talmudic LIE designed to deceive humanity and have Christian religious adherents fail to realise that they have complete agency in their own lives and cannot rely on Jesus or anyone to "save" them, as mentioned above.].
In 1 Corinthians, Paul the Apostle says: "For I handed on to you as of first importance what I in turn had received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures."
[Ron: Once the Pharisees had arranged for Roman Emperors to establish a false religion in an effort to eliminate the truths taught by Jesus they distorted his teachings by excluding the Gospel of Thomas and many other books from the Bible. But their biggest coup was getting the Torah included in the Bible as the "Old Testament". That completely compromised Jesus' teaching and created the basis for perpetuating the colossal LIE that Christian truth somehow arose out of Pharisaic bullshit. That perfidious accomplishment has enabled Pharisees and neo-Pharisees to pretend that despite having crucified Jesus they never-the-less happen to be the font of "Judeo-Christian" morality and values and hence the source of the civilisation that Jesus' divine teaching caused to manifest in Europe. LOL!
Once the Pharisees had persuaded Roman emperors to establish the false christian religion they censored and distorted successive iterations of Christian teachings and the Bible for almost two millenia. In particular the genocidal Torah was inappropriately included in the Bible and called "the Old Testament" when the Emperor Constantine established Christianity as the official religion of the Empire. The so-called Church Fathers appear to have had no real say in the matter or were susceptible to Talmudic persuasion. In the interests of ensuring the new religion was a suitable social control mechanism, Emperor Constantine and later, the Emperor Justinian, enforced the elimination of many books and teachings from the Bible while including the Torah. Followers of Jesus' real teachings were sidelined or bloodily eliminated.
Be aware that the Christian religion and the Bible didn't exist in 325 AD when Emperor Constantine organized and presided over the Council of Nicea. In 331 Constantine commissioned fifty Bibles for the Church of Constantinople, but little else is known (in fact, it is not even certain whether his request was for fifty copies of the entire Old and New Testaments, only the New Testament, or merely the Gospels.
In any event, the Pharisees were not satisfied with inserting the Torah into the Bible and calling it 'The Old Testament'. They sought to ensure that virtually all references to Jesus' GOOD NEWS such as reincarnation and the fact that EVERY ensouled human being is indwelt by a fragment of Creator consciousness making each one an only begotten 'Son of God', were deliberately omitted from Christian teaching and deleted from the Bible.
This denial of the fact that every HUman is indwelt by a God fragment and hence sovereign and immortal was as crucial as the elimination of the truth about reincarnation. Why? Because it led to the infantilisation of Christian religious believers via the false doctrine that Jesus the Christ was the ONLY begotten son of God and that he sacrificed himself for the salvation of ALL of humanity. He didn’t and couldn’t. Jesus' message was that every ensouled HUman is gifted by the Creator with a unique personality and free will and that, as a consequence, every ensouled human being is an only begotten (ie unique) son of God and hence a sovereign individual responsible for his/her own decisions, evolvement and destiny. Each HUman must learn about life the universe and everything and evolve spiritually to ‘save’ self. Moreover, HUmans are eternal spirits and have eternity in which to reincarnate and complete this process.
The Christian religion doesn’t tell adherents this truth because Emperor Justinian eliminated virtually all references to Jesus’ teaching about reincarnation from the Bible. This was finally achieved during the Fifth Ecumenical Council in 554 AD. At that time Emperor Justinian arrested Pope Vigilius for Believing in Reincarnation and had the Council declare:
If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema. (The Anathemas against Origen), attached to the decrees of the Fifth Ecumenical Council, A.D. 554, in Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2d ser., 14: 318). See eg: Pope [Vigilius] Arrested for Believing in Reincarnation - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Pope-Vigilius-Arrested-for-Believing-in-Reincarnation.shtml
Eradication of the doctrine of Reincarnation, ie knowledge that the evolvement of life and hence MIND is based on the reincarnation process (which is essential to enable spirit beings incarnating into physicality to avail themselves of a sufficient number of physical incarnations to adequately explore and understand the immensity of life, the universe and everything) is the method used by the Pharisees and neo-Pharisees, ie Talmudists who call themselves Jews but are not, to convince gentiles (ie all who DO NOT accept Talmudism) that they are merely physical creatures having one, only, lifetime which has no meaning, destiny or purpose. Concomitantly this LIE, reinforced by the Talmudists’ funding and coercion of scientists to accept and promulgate false science about life, the universe and everything as typified by falsely promulgated Darwinian evolutionary theories about the Origin of Species, has made it easy for Talmudists and the Christian religious puppets they control, to instil fear of death into congregations. The truth is scientifically explained by Bruce Lipton. See eg: Bruce Lipton - Fear vs Love State and Stress's Effects on Your Body - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Other_Spiritual_Pieces_68/Bruce-Lipton---Fear-vs-Love-State-and-Stress-s-Effects-on-Your-Body.shtml
This process of inserting LIES into Christian teaching and the Bible has made it feasible for Talmudists and materialists generally, to distort human consciousness and science by having scientists, academics, educators and commentators as well as the MSM, promulgate false and ridiculous ideas about consciousness arising from random chemical reactions. This also enables Talmudists et al to contend that people on this small planet on the edge of the universe are the most, and probably the only, consciously intelligent beings in the Cosmos. LOL.
The Talmudists’ current puppet Pope is Francis and his Talmudic tendencies and intention to establish a Talmudic global religion are obvious. A major mission of Abundant Hope is to change the face of religion by introducing a truly spiritual personal dimension in which humans on this planet learn the truth about life, the universe and everything. In truth EACH HUman must personally forge a spiritual relationship with the Creator via his/her indwelling fragment of Creator consciousness.
Our reality is not as simple as the neo-Pharisees and their minions like Pope Francis suppose. Thinking emanates from the Creator, the MIND that creates ALL THAT IS! Thus our thinking emanates from our immortal Spirit which is a fragment of the consciousness of the Creator, NOT from our physical brain which is merely a biological computer. Our world constantly manifests as a result of our thinking. The pseudo global religion being touted by the Jews' puppet Pope Francis, would result in a diabolically enslaved world that is the product of accumulated negative thoughts and actions that have generated negative energetic vibrations over aeons on this planet. Those thoughts have produced a global genetic mind that has manifested a Talmudic (Masonic, cultural Marxist Communist, pseudo religious) mind set. Those thoughts have become progressively darker and more negative due to continuing Luciferian and Satanic Talmudic influences.].
Scalfari's account is put into question
Eugenio Scalfari, 95, a self-professed atheist and a long-time friend of Pope Francis, has conducted multiple interviews with the Pontiff that have caused furore in the Christian community.
He has previously claimed that the Pope told him that hell does not exist, that divorced and remarried Christians should be admitted to Holy Communion, and that Jesus Christ isn't God.
[Ron: Actually 'hell' is just another Talmudic LIE. It does not exist except to the extent that a spirit creates a personal psychic 'hell' for self in this life through deliberate radical separation from Creator consciousness.
Jesus was a dual incarnation in that his physical body (meat suit) was overshadowed and enlivened by both Christ Michael Aton, (CM) the creator God of this universe of Nebadon, and Esu Immanuel Kumara, one of CM's created sons who has graduated from Paradise and is an agondontor who assists him here. Neither spirit could actually inhabit Jesus' body because their energetic vibrational rate was so high that their entry into Jesus' meat suit would cause it to instantly disintege.
Holy Communion is another Talmudic LIE that was used to convert Christian communal eating into a pseudo ritual blood sacrifice.]
The Pope himself has never clarified his purported quotations provided by Scalfari. On each occasion, the Vatican has stated that Scalfari's account is not reliable (the Italian journalist famously never records or takes notes of his conversations with the Pope and prefers to write his accounts later from memory).
The ‘non-divinity' of Jesus
Last month, Scalfari claimed that Pope Francis told him in a conversation over two years ago that he "conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, a man, not God incarnate. Once incarnated, Jesus ceases to be a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross."
[Ron: Every ensouled human being (HUman) is an only begotten (unique) son or God because each is indwelt by a fragment of Creator consciousness. And once a HUman fuses with that indwelling 'God spark' s/he becomes immortal and a manifestation of the Creator in Creation.].
A Vatican spokesman then said at a press conference that "the Holy Father never said what Scalfari wrote." He added that both the quoted remarks and interpretation of the conversation by Scalfari "cannot be considered a faithful account of what was said by the Pope."
Replying to the alleged papal comments on the Resurrection, the Holy See Press Office said the quotation attributed to Pope Francis represents "a personal and free interpretation of those who listened, as appears completely evident from what is written today regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ."
[Ron: So what? ].
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Judaism and Christianity - Two Thousand Years of Lies - 60 Years of State Terrorism - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Judaism-and-Christianity---Two-Thousand-Years-of-Lies---60-Years-of-State-Terrorism.shtml
Donald Trump Gets an Earful After Saying US-Italy Ties Go Back to Ancient Rome - http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Donald-Trump-Gets-an-Earful-After-Saying-US-Italy-Ties-Go-Back-to-Ancient-Rome.shtml
Pope Francis: Christianity Welcomes Pagans but They Must ‘Reject Idolatry’- http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Pope-Francis-Christianity-Welcomes-Pagans-but-They-Must-Reject-Idolatry.shtml