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Human/Animal Rights Last Updated: Dec 29, 2018 - 7:23:11 PM


LGBT ‘Catholic’ Groups: If Pope can reverse Church Teaching on Death Penalty, Why Not Homosexuality?
By Dorothy Cummings McLean with comments by Ron
Aug 6, 2018 - 6:19:53 PM

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LEXINGTON, Kentucky, August 3, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) - Pro-homosexual dissident 'Catholic' groups see in Pope Francis' ‘changing' of the Church's teaching on the death penalty the hope that the Church will one day also change its teaching against homosexuality.

New Ways Ministry called the change in the Catechism proof that "Church teaching can change."

"It's important for Catholic advocates for LGBT equality to take note of this change because for decades Catholic opponents of LGBT equality argued that it is impossible to change church teaching.  They often pointed to the fact that condemnations of  same-sex relationships were inscribed in the Catechism, and so were not open for discussion or change. Yet, the teaching on the death penalty is in the Catechism, too, and, in fact, to make this change in teaching, it was the text of the Catechism that Francis changed," the group stated on its website.

[Ron: In the context of divine law, ie the way that Creation is organised and operates, it is irrelevant what the Catholic Church teaches or includes in its Catechism. Divine Law does not change. The fact that the Catholic Church - a man-made religion, created and organised by Roman Emperors advised by Pharisees and currently controlled and operated by neo-Pharisees (ie Talmudists) who call themselves Jews, is irrelevant to divine truth and the way that Creation operates. Accordingly, the Pope's views and the Catholic Church's Catechism teachings on the death penalty and homosexuality or anything else are bogus if they don't conform with divine law.

In our 3d-4d world, human societies have the right, in appropriate cases, to execute the death penalty in cases in which proper judicial investigations indicate serious crime has been committed and that the death penalty is warranted in order to properly protect the wider community.

Distortions in Christian thinking were inserted into "Western Christendom" by the Pharisees who not only crucified Jesus the Christ, they also sought to destroy all trace of his teaching of the Good News about the Creator and our divine human heritage as sons and daughters of the Creator embued with individual personality and mind, a spark of the Creator's consciousness. They did that by influencing Roman Emperors to establish a religion despite the fact that Jesus did NOT incarnate to establish a religion but to teach divine truth lost over many millenia and corrupted by the Pharisees.

The Pharisees distorted Christ's teaching in many ways including by excluding the Gospel of Thomas and many other books from the Bible. In particular they ensured that virtually all references to reincarnation were removed from the Bible. This was finally achieved by the successful elimination from the Bible of Christ's  teachings about REINCARNATION. That was done during the Fifth Ecumenical Council in 554 AD. At that time Emperor Justinian arrested Pope Vigilius for Believing in Reincarnation and had the Council declare:

If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema. (The Anathemas against Origen), attached to the decrees of the Fifth Ecumenical Council, A.D. 554, in Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2d ser., 14: 318). See eg: Pope [Vigilius] Arrested for Believing in Reincarnation - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Pope-Vigilius-Arrested-for-Believing-in-Reincarnation.shtml

The neo-Pharisees who call themselves Jews, completed Western Christendom's divorce from universal spiritual reality by persecuting truth telling scientists like Galiieo Galilei in the 16th and 17th Centuries and thereafter, and promotiong Darwinism in the 19th century. THINK about it! Once you convince people that they are just physical animals having only one brief  lifetime 'In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication' as Dawkins and the Talmudists put it, then spiritual values and morality seem meaningless and survival of the so-called fitest is the only reality.

Paradoxically though, the Talmudists whose tribal political ideology requires them to seek to enslave and exterminate all gentiles, never the less demand that gentiles must not execute persons duly found by proper judicial proceedings to be an unreasonable lethal hazard to other members of society, and they seek to have their puppet Pontiff Francis, pontificate about it.

Even more absurdly, the Rothschilds funded the writing of the Schofield Bible in the US in the early 20th Century which thoroughly distorted the thinking of Evangelical US Christians and others to such an extent that they falsely believe that their "Christian" beliefs arise out of and accord with the teachings of Judaism when in truth Pharisaic beliefs are derived from the Talmud and Torah which DEMAND that Talmudists abuse and kill all gentiles. Such genocidal doctrines are diametrically opposed to the loving truth taught by Jesus and should not be included in the so-called Christian Bible.

Eradication of the doctrine of Reincarnation, ie knowledge that the evolvement of life and hence MIND is based on the reincarnation process (which is essential to enable spirit beings to avail themselves of sufficient physical incarnations to adequately explore and understand the immensity of life, the universe and everything) is the mechanism used by neo-Pharisees (Talmudists) who call themselves Jews, to convince gentiles that they are merely physical creatures having one, only, lifetime which has no meaning, destiny or purpose.

Concomitantly this LIE, reinforced by the Jews' funding and coercion of scientists to accept and promulgate false science about life, the universe and everything as typified by Darwin's false evolutionary theories about the Origin of Species, has made it easy for Talmudists and their puppet Christian religious controllers, to instil fear of death into congregations. This process has distorted human consciousness and science by having clergy, politicians, scientists, academics, educators and the mass media promulgate the false and ridiculous idea that people on this small planet on the edge of the universe are the most, and probably the only, consciously intelligent beings in the Cosmos. LOL.

Similarly, advocates of "LGBT equality" use a rhetorical slight of hand that pretends that saying that homosexual practices are EQUAL to heterosexual practices ie they are the valid, equal physiologically, psychologically, morally and socially to heterosexual practices, makes it so. Similarly it is implied that transgenderism transcends and replaces male and female biological realities with a plethora of subjectively imagined, allegedly real sexual possibilities. They aren't and they can't. Heterosexual practices are based on the divinely ordained biological sexual division between males and females observable throughout nature and which conform to the divine plan for the reproductive continuance of life on this planet and throughout Creation.

Any society that rejects that essential characteristic and condones let alone legislates and propagandises in favour of destructive physical, moral and societal attitudes and practices in relation to sodomy and same sex couples, exhibits a death wish.

There is nothing enlightened, progressive or morally and socially healthy about giving homosexual couples legal and social equality with heterosexual couples, including the SAME marriage and parenting rights!

If people wish to live together in ways that prevent them procreating and raising children that is their prerogative BUT it is inappropriate and indeed SUICIDAL for the rest of society to approve and assist physically, psychologically, spiritually and socially harmful practices such as sodomy and homosexual parenting. It is absurd to suggest that "society" can bestow on homosexual couples the marriage and parenting rights that naturally exist in relation to heterosexual couples. Sodomy cannot produce offspring nor can lesbian activities. Demanding that society bless homosexual couples with the RIGHT to acquire and raise children by using the services of people not part of their relationship is a gross imposition not only on society at large but also on the children subjected to the resulting homosexual parenting. See eg: “Gay Marriage” in US Creates Surrogacy “Niche Market” in Tbilisi Georgia - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Human_Animal_Rights_104/Gay-Marriage-in-US-Creates-Surrogacy-Niche-Market-in-Tbilisi-Georgia.shtml

In fact, homosexuals are demanding that society MUST grant them GREATER RIGHTS than it gives to heterosexual couples in that homosexuals REQUIRE that society must assist them to live as if they are heterosexual partners and parents while they choose not to be.

The advocates of homosexuality are creating a DEATH WISH in Western societies, notably in the nations of Europe and Anglo countries including the US, Canada and Australia. Actively advocating homosexual outcomes has resulted in these nations failing to reproduce themselves and requiring immigration and refugee flows to enable them to continue to exist. This outcome is desired by the Talmudists who advocate for and fund LGBT activities because the Talmud and Torah require them to seek to demoralise, enslave and destroy all gentile nations. Advocating and assisting LGBT processes demoralises gentile societies and results in their failure to reproduce themselves, a trend that is obvious in Europe today.].

New Ways Ministry, which works to "promote the acceptance of LGBT people," said that Pope Francis' move will help advance "LGBT equality" in a number of ways.

"First, we now have a clear, explicit contemporary example of church teaching changing, and also a look into how it can be done: with a papal change to the Catechism," it stated.

"Second,  we can see that the process that brought about this change has been decades of theological debate and discussion, and not just a papal whim.  That means the theological and even ecclesial discussions and debates right now about LGBT people have great potential to shape future changes in church teaching in regard to those topics," it added.

The pro-gay group was not the only one to see the significance of Pope Francis' rewrite of the Catechism.

In a post that appeared yesterday on Twitter, Lexington-based "Fortunate Families" wrote:

The church cannot change its teaching. That is what so many others say about other topics, for example regarding LGBTQ persons. But doctrine develops. Today's news is a sterling example.

"The idea first floated by [the] Pope on Catechism's 25th anniversary last fall to signify development of doctrine," the tweet continued, "rescript issued today sees Francis issue edit of the 1994 official text, now deeming capital punishment ‘inadmissible'-- the new formulation."

 


Joseph Sciambra@JosephSciambra

Bishop Stowe's "Fortunate Families" believe that the CCC will also "change" in terms of homosexuality. FF operatives are embedded within several dioceses around the US. http://josephsciambra.com/diocese-of-lexington-goes-gay-bishop-serves-as-adviser-to-pro-same-sex-marriage-ministry ...

2:56 PM - Aug 3, 2018

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"Development of doctrine", legitimately used to describe how the Catholic Church refines and expands, but never undermines or rejects, what was taught earlier, has now been interpreted by some to mean the erasure of settled Church teaching.

Critics say Pope Francis attempted to do that yesterday when he promulgated a new teaching concerning the death penalty in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, saying that it was "inadmissible." The perennial teaching of the Church, based on Scripture and unanimously accepted by the Church Fathers and every pope until Francis, is that legitimate civil authority may impose the death penalty on a malefactor. Although both Saint John Paul II and Benedict XVI were strongly opposed to capital punishment--and John Paul's Catechism strongly circumscribed it--neither pope denied this principle.

Pope Francis' innovation has already become a club for American liberals to beat conservatives with. Jane Fleming Kleeb, Chair of the Democratic Party in Nebraska, has tweeted "Let's be clear Nebraskans,@GovRicketts is going against the teachings of the church. We can change leaders by voting different on Nov. 6--Democrats are against the death penalty."

Fortunate Families, founded in 1992 by Mary Ellen and Casey Lopata, the Catholic parents of a same-sex attracted man, is a group of Catholic religious and laypeople who dissent on authentic Church teaching regarding sexuality and marriage. From 2010 until this July Fortunate Families was part of a coalition with Call to Action, the banned Dignity, and the censured New Ways ministry.

Astonishingly, since November 2017 Bishop John Stowe, OFM of Lexington has served as the dissident group's "ecclesial advisor". Stowe is one of the five bishops who have endorsed Fr. James Martin's pro-LGBT book Building a Bridge. The bishop was appointed to the Lexington diocese by Pope Francis in 2015.

Fortunate Families was last in the news when a Lexington Catholic church stretched an LGBT flag across its front lawn. The first executive director of the group, Stan "JR" Zerkowski, is a parishioner at St. Paul's parish, and told media that he hoped the banner got wide publicity.

"This is a church that is open to all people and I hope this sign gets that across," he said in the TV report. "I don't think a Catholic Church has ever had a sign like this before in front of it during Pride Week or any other time. However, in other parts of the country we see this regularly."

The banner read "LBGTQ+ Catholic /Family, Friends & Allies/all are welcome", insinuating that at other Catholic churches Catholics who experience same-sex desires or suffer from gender dysphoria are barred from the worship of God.

Former homosexual Joseph Sciambra retweeted the group's Twitter message, saying "Bishop Stowe's ‘Fortunate Families' believe that the [Catechism of the Catholic Church] will also ‘change' in terms of homosexuality. FF operatives are embedded within several dioceses around the US."

Sciambra, a survivor of the San Francisco 1990s "gay scene", is dedicated to helping people with same-sex attractions avoid being trapped in what he says is a dangerous way of life.

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