If the problem is "American citizens" being cultivated as "assets" trying to put "interference" in the mainstream media, the logical next step is to start asking Internet platforms to shut down accounts belonging to any American journalist with the temerity to report material leaked by foreigners (the wrong foreigners, of course - it will continue to be okay to report things like the "black ledger"). From Fox or the Daily Caller on the right, to left-leaning outlets like Consortium or the World Socialist Web Site, to writers like me even - we're all now clearly in range of new speech restrictions, even if we stick to long-ago-established factual standards. Matt Taibbi
Paul Robinson:There is perhaps an element of truth in this - Russia's support for the rebels of Donbass is a case in point - but only a small one.
Ron: i disagree. The US and Israel fomented, funded and supported the Jews' Maiden Coup in Kiev in February 2014 the result of whisch was an attempt to enslave and genocide ethnic Russians in Donbass and Crimea. Calling ethnic Russians in Ukraine's Donbass "rebels" is a bit rich when they were attacked by a demonic Talmudic cabal that overthrew a legitimately elected Ukrainian government. See eg: The Deep State, the IMF and the Fleecing of Ukraine -http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Deep-State-the-IMF-and-the-Fleecing-of-Ukraine.shtml
Paul Robinson:External actors can exacerbate and prolong internal conflicts, but they don't create them.The roots of instability lie within the countries of the FSU themselves.
Ron: I disagree. Virtually all substantial conflicts in our world since, at least, the Jews' COUP falesly labelled as the French Revolution have been instigated and manipulated by Talmudic banksters and global Jewry.
Paul Robinson: This conclusion leads to another popular explanation, namely that the primary cause of conflict in the developing world is a lack of democracy. This is said to lead to corruption, stagnation, and the dissatisfaction of the masses, which, in due course, leads to political violence.
Ron: Democracy as a governance mechanism was designed, promulgated and infused into Anglo-US and European nations by Talmudists as a useful adjunct to their corporatist-capitalist monetary control ideology designed to enslave all gentile nations. Since it's inception following the so-called Glorious Revolution in England in 1688 and the subsequent establshme of the Bank of England in 1694, Talmudic banksters have covertly ruled all Anglo-US nations and gradually extended their covert control to most other nations on the planet, usually under the pretence of introducting democratic governance.
Paul Robinson:All too often, the democratic systems left by the colonizers rapidly collapsed in a succession of military coups, revolutions, and insurgencies. Various factors explain this: for instance, artificial borders that did not coincide with ethnic boundaries; weak state institutions; and endemic poverty.
Ron: This analysis typically ignores the primary cause of socio-political instability in ALL gentile nations, namely the covert influence of Talmudic banksters and their political puppets, agents and enablers.
Paul Robinson:All this mattered, and continues to matter, as government legitimacy derives from more than competitive elections. It rests also on a sense that a country's rulers represent the people, their culture, and their values, as well as on a recognition that they are able to deliver competent government. In the absence of a unifying national identity and a strong central state, legitimacy passes to sub-state entities, and society fractures.
Ron: Yabba, yabba, Talmudic-speak propagada yabba. Since the days of the Black Nobility in Venice,* Talmudists have controlled and destroyed nations and they are the primary instigators of the 'lack of unity and legitimacy of governments. IF you don't believe me, HAVE A CLOSE LOOK AT WHAT THE TALMUDIC CULTURAL MARXISTS HAVE DONE TO DESTROY THE US IN ORDER TO OUST PRESIDENT TRUMP EVER SINCE HE WAS ELECTED IN 2016. *See eg: How Venice Rigged The First, and Worst, Global Financial Collapse -http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/How-Venice-Rigged-The-First-and-Worst-Global-Financial-Collapse.shtml
Paul Robinson:The problem that former Soviet states face is that it takes a very long time to overcome these limitations, and attempts to do so can often backfire, particularly when efforts are made to force a certain national identity on an unwilling population (or at least on a population part of which is unwilling). In such cases, discontented groups take matters into their own hands through secession, revolution, or other political action.
Paul Robinson:As if this were not bad enough, the international system is simply not designed to cope with the resulting conflicts.This is particularly true when it comes to separatism and the redrawing of borders. Until at least 1945, wars often ended in the transfer of territory, enshrined in a treaty between the winner and the loser. In the modern era, however, the territorial integrity of states has become a sacrosanct element of the international order. Defeated nations simply refuse to recognize the loss of territory, while other states back them in this refusal.
Ron:WTF?! TELL that to ethnic Germans! About 20 million Germans were genocided by the Talmudist controlled Allies during and after WWII AND not only did they lose territory but Germany is still occupied by the US military and has NO PEACE TREATY with the Allied nations.
Paul Robinson:Of course, no single one of these factors by itself explains the continuing problems faced by post-Soviet states. It is rather the different combinations of various of them in different cases that provides for the variety of conflicts we see today. Unfortunately, this means that easy answers are not to be found.
Ron: I disagree. The answer is simple: It's the Talmudist! Eliminate private Rothschilds' corporate currency (money) creation AND its usurious and fraudulent fractional reserve banking distribution. Once the Talmudist lose their control of the gobal money supply nations will be free to resume normal human socio-political activities since scarcity and want will be replaced by prosperity everywhere.
But just a few days after the men were arrested the whole plan unraveled. Russian media proved without doubt that the men had been tricked to go to Belarus and that they had no plans to overthrow Lukashenko. The Belorussian president apologized and the men were returned to Russia. As the Russian broadsheet kp.rusummarized (machine translation):
[I]t can be stated that the Ukrainian special services managed to create a fake project, in which they involved 180 Russian citizens, while including in the first group of war veterans in the Donbas. At the same time, it is quite possible to admit that the entire fascinating and instructive story was brought to the Belorussian side in a very truncated form - without details about air tickets.
Through this entire operation, the SBU seems to have intended to kill several birds with one stone - the ubiquitous, nightmarish and terrible PMC Wagner was supposed to ricochet on Rosneft - as one of the largest Russian companies, but the main blow, undoubtedly, on the Russian-Belorussian relationships. Not to mention the possible extradition of Russian citizens to Ukraine, which Kiev would be incredibly happy about - such an opportunity to avenge its sailors, whom Poroshenko sent "to slaughter" in the Kerch Strait.
The real story is the failed CIA/SBU operation. The NYT editors and its Moscow bureau seem to believe that the CIA's failure is not part of "all the news that's fit to print". Instead of reporting what really happened, like the Ukrainian media did, they cover it up by claiming that it is somehow Lukashenko's fantasy. - Moon of Alabama
Ron: Biden isn't disqualified from holding public office unless and until he's prosecuted and convicted. There is currenty no sign that the Trump Administration is attempting to do that.
